I said it, like people SHOULD be saying. Tracer has always been dominant (and by the looks of it always will be), the character in fact is SO dominant, to the point where (because she’s the poster girl) devs refuse to nerf her, but will just implement heroes designed to stop specifically her (and screw any other hero over in the process).
You ever wonder why the hell McCree would need a 0.8 second lasting stun the size of a small star… it’s cause of tracer. Because without that good ole’ sun sized stun ability, tracer would be even more unstoppable. This is what happens you have a character with a tiny hitbox and the best mobility in the game.
Why would we need to add a support with a shield, armor, 2 CC abilities, and a direct long range healing pack??? Wow… because of tracer. Yes yes dive was also a factor but tracer was absolutely the biggest menace to support lines during dive. No other dive hero needs giant and blatantly easy to use abilities / heroes to counter them.
So when are we (seemingly never as this game has been abandoned and not balanced for 4 months now…) going to just… nerf her? Instead of introducing idiotic heroes and abilities into the game SPEFICALLY designed to counter her, which in turn screw literally every other hero in the game who isn’t tiny with the best mobility in the game…
(Yes I understand tracer is very hard to play. But as I say usually, skill doesn’t justify something being a complete mess balance wise)
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A extremely skilled hero, being a top pick if you have the skill for it, there is nothing wrong with it.
Only gm and above have tracer meta and they love it cause she does take skill more so than anyone else being meta like cree widow etc.
She doesnt break the game for lower ranks unlike other less skilled heroes when they become meta.
so there is nothing wrong here.
As long as tracer was dominant overwatch was a good game.
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How they gonna tell every streamer and high elo dps player that they are nerfing their favourite hero? Haha. I also dont like how people justify her being op because she is mechanically demanding. Yeah ok she is but this is not an excuse for her to be that strong. Also she can work in kinda every comp?
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She does break the game… did you not read what I said? BECAUSE OF HER EXISTENCE, things like cree’s flashbang or ya know… brig entire kit exist BECAUSE of tracer. Things specifically designed to counter ONE hero, which in turn completely screws over every other hero in the game… because not every hero can literally teleport with a tiny hitbox.
Again, SKILL doesn’t justify something being broken. The issue is less about her being strong and more about what she brings into the game because of her design.
You also could literally say this about any point in the game, she has ALWAYS been dominant / a top pick… the game became trash BECAUSE she was dominant and forced something like brig to be created. (Which is more on the fault of the devs because instead of just nerfing her, they refuse and add heroes instead to counter her)
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I really wonder why the forums scream so much about Tracer, yet her pickrate/winrate aren’t even great in any rank besides GM+.
If we aren’t nerfing Bap because he isn’t great for the majority of the playerbase, why would we nerf Tracer when she’s in the same position?
Plus, Tracer balances out Bap/Brig/Double Shields in the high end of the game. If you don’t nerf Bap with her, then you’ve just made a large majority of the top end quit the game.
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Badly design choices should be blamed on the devs not tracer.
cree never countered tracer.
Brig was a design disaster was she created to counter dive yes, but there were better option like going for a aim based beam hero with a basic mobility rather than what brig was.
Tracer wasnt dominant during goats she was always good, but her being meta was when the game was fun and popular.
do we need to sacrifice a few anas and zens why not compared to the pathetic goats or ds metas.
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Ummm bap is broken… i don’t know where you got this idea that bap is balanced. Bap should also get completely reworked but that’s a whole different conversation.
That’s been my whole point this entire time. I’m yellin at the devs to actually nerf her properly for once, and rework other characters.
Cree with his flashbang size has always countered tracer. Effectively? That’s a different discussion, but that’s LITERALLY his entire purpose and why he was made.
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nah he was made to be a cool cowboy with anti flank capabilities he wasnt a monster like brig were his mommy dev daily said in his womb that tracer is your enemy.
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The same can be said with Brig but that does not stop the complaints. I mean Brig is mainly only used in GM.
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Please tell me one singular other character in this game outside of tracer, that would require a stun that lasts as long as flashbang does, and is the size of flashbang… literally none. No other character is as small and at the same time as fast as tracer.
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except i can buff tracer today and she still wouldnt be meta until masters GM, buff brig today she will be meta everyday.
Skill difference lets not pretend its not there.
The issue is not brig counters dive, its that she does it with little to no effort.
Skill doesn’t justify something being busted.
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This is definitely true. But as a T500 Support main, I genuinely believe that if Bap/Brig were nerfed in good ways, Support would still be in a really good place power-wise… which… is not something I can say about the state of Dps if we were to nerf Tracer without also nerfing Bap.
I honestly want them all nerfed at the same time. They all hold back new meta’s and styles of play being the way that they are. It’s not really fun to play the same meta for 2+ years.
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Skill is not some blanket term that makes a hero an exception. Buffs can radically change any hero. It is misleading to believe any change to Tracer won’t effect the game.
Its like asking to be rewarded more for digging a hole with a spoon vs a shovel.
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Bap, cree, tracer, and brig all nerfed would put this game in a place where people could manage to play for more than 2 games.
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I wouldnt call tracer busted, op if highly skilled with high tier teams yes, launch brig, giga hog they were busted.
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Any nerfs to tracer would mean Double shield will be back in full force.
She is the gatekeeper of unfun boring things in game.
You get the gist tho. Just because something is hard to play, doesn’t mean we can just let it run free. Hell, look at widow. Even she had to get nerfed eventually.
Idk why they refuse to nerf tracer tho, probably because she’s the poster girl. It would not surprise me.
Pretty sure she STILL has the LEAST amount of buffs / nerfs to a hero and she’s been here since the literal beginning.
How the hell does tracer STOP double shield? Also… double shield IS meta you know this right? GM games is literally just double shield or ball / poke… boring asf.
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It took releasing an actual raid boss specifically designed to counter her in order to stop Tracer dominating for a while.
Not much more needs to be said. She should have been hard reworked a long time ago.
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I do understand how stale metas can be, but some people are resistant to change. Where they say they cannot stand seeing X hero meta.
I am not sure how to nerf Brig in a good way that won’t make her even more rarely seen in other ranks.