Tracer is still by far most dominant hero in the game

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Just as the title says. I see people who still believe tank is most defining role and broken role, most impactful or some other tomfoolery made up reasoning by some streamer like kragiee 3+ years ago that people still chant like mindless zombies.

Tracer is by far the strongest, most dominant, most meta defining, most impactful solo carry hero in this game. And I highly doubt she is even changed in the slightest in OW2. Not only shes that strong, but she only ever been nerfed once due to pulse bomb dmg going down from 400 to 300, which was partially reverted back to 350, and her falloff range was buffed.

Goats was caused by tanks? By brig? Nah. Goats was caused by tracer. Tracer was so strong they made the most monstrous hero this game has seen in her release form in the name of brig, strictly meant to counter her. That led to goats (and snipers which dominated for 3 seasons of owl straight + the T2 scene), and then when we had double shield which was broken and would have been solved by removing sig’s shield, the global shield nerf led to several metas ruled by tracer that last to this day (over 2 years now), bar the one time we had the broken genji for like 3 weeks.

Tracer is the best hero in the game, and historically always has been, with zen and then dva closest to her overall. If you believe for one second tanks are in the slightest more dominant than tracer (and I can name few more in the dps role), then u either never played tracer to a high level, or never met one who does.

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Tracer is just one dps character that can get actual value compared to other dps characters. Guess why echo is the same dominant. Tanks are trully the carry role in this game, you either play tank or make tank (ashe) or dupe tank (echo) or distract tank (tracer) Simple as that.

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#1 duelist in the game, with some of best self peel, highest mobility, one of highest dps and a squishy assassination ult - doesnt strictly distract a tank, if anything they distract the backline (cough brig zen best counter for her cough).

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She’s definitely one of the strongest and has the most carry potential. I would say brig is more meta defining from how her inspire paired with her utility can enable certain dive comps by hyper enabling zen, forcing lucio Moira comps out of meta, and outclassing rush

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No that goes to Roadhog

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Yes, and that is just one hero, tanks have 8 of this kind + crazy synergies. You can do a tank synergy that counters any dps combo using just these 8 heroes (17 dps heroes btw, very useful, kappa). Have you ever heard about dps synergy that is not about just 2 flankers doing their own flanky things? I haven’t.

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She is the main character of this game, so she deserves that.

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Lmao if u think theres just one. Tracer, echo and hanzo are all top tier rn, followed by cass, soldier, ashe and depending on map even widow.

Tanks rn have what? Ball sig hog? Orisa only viable with sig?

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Well she is the reason why balance is so bad. The devs refuse to nerf her so here we are.

In OW2 she and Genji will have extremely high pickrate and winrate. Mark my words.

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Reality check, what is your rank? My bet is 2700-3300 avg right?

Now let’s break down listed heroes 1 by 1

Tracer – fully self-sufficient hero – that is why the best. 5.5 m/s movement speed in combination with blinks + a-d crouch spam and tiny model hitbox make it really hard to deal with her. Distraction provides a lot of space, also can 1v1 anything in this game. Can bait out abilities via recall.
Echo – good unless countered hard, having no pocket. Very good ult and good midfight capabilities. Can solo carry due to high midfight capabilities and op ultimate.
Ashe – good unless countered hard, having no pocket. Good midfight cap. with pocket, and very good ult. No damage w/o pocket, thanks to all the nerfs. Therefore, can’t do anything w/o pocket, cant build ult fast enough. Becomes hard-carry with the pocket. Team dependent hero - sux.
Soldier – good for any comps, low carry potential due to bad ult (no clutch) a bit better midfight capabilities compared to solo Ashe, due to having self-sustain. Therefore, you can play 76, but you can’t carry with that hero if your tanks sucks, or you don’t have hardpocket to beat falloff nerf. Not team dependent that much, but can’t carry due to having poor ultimate.
Hanzo – only good with poke comps, any focus fire makes him useless. Unreliable oneshots that you can’t control its consistency, which makes him spambot. Ball+tracer, pharah + mercy completely negate his impact.
Widow - very map dependent, space dependent, focus fire dependent. Good if only uncontested. Bad target to pocket, no statistical damage output.

Tanks have all the possible synergies in this game. And you can solo carry with oneshots by hog, combine sigma with hog, orisa, and contrloo lg+hg with dva.
Dva - hard overpowered (300 armor, 4s mobility, high damage output with E)
Hog – almost oneshots zarya, nothing more to say here
Sigma – a version of dva for Lowground, having matrix + shield + better ult + cc + high damage output+ self regen shields (blue hp) makes him hard op.
Tank comps
You can AFK with orisa and sigma up to gm if you have 2 braincells even if your team full of dogs.
You can play any other comps which just increase difficulty but opens up more hard-carry potential (Ball+dva, Monke+zarya, almost anything with sigma)

Dps to tank carry potential comparison considering performance
Even having overpowered tracer and echo, those heroes doesn’t get any free value if not performing really good. Mechanical skill is the key here. To be able to hard carry with them, you need to do the job for 3 to 4 players, which is pretty much impossible.
And if we compare it with performance required for tanks, you can hardcarry doing 1.5x of your avg performance and even carry bad dps (both of them). But it becomes harder if you have dog supports. So 1.5x to 3-4x performance, that is how easy to climb with the tank, esp. in double shield comp.

1 tank = 2 dps

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someone has to be top dog. right now its tracer but the thing about her is that she is not dominant in ALL ranks. her pickrate only skyrockets at masters on overbuff.

now for overwatch 2 will that be different… probably. i think she will need a nerf since no more CC or another tank. i think the devs are torn on what to do since she is their darling lol

personally i love tracer. she is fun to play and i love her personality. i wouldnt mind if she was the protagonist of a single player campaign mode. still tho if she is TOO OP in overwatch 2 i hope they do something about it

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3.7, ironically u are 3k flat tho. Reality check?

Yea that really shows your rank lol.

Another low dia andy whos never seen double shield complaining about double shield, which is barely even played across the ENTIRE ladder. And honestly? Its really easy to break double shield rn, because the power isnt in sig and orisa as much as it is in bap zen + dps, as they provide far more pressure rn + window every fight + immo. Id love to see u afk sig to gm.

Essentially described all roles in the entire ladder

How to argue without having an argument. Echo is also by far one of the strongest heroes in the game rn at any high level. In almost every echo meta she DIDNT have a mercy pocket, and majority of echo metas had zen, brig and/or ana in them.

Yep

If u cant aim yes

Death blossom is a bad ult. Meteor strike is a bad ult. Visor isnt a bad ult.

Constantly contradicting yourself in here, really just saying u want a hard pocket on every dps u play.

Hanzo currently is good in almost any comp. While ladder plays hanzo in poke, double shield AND brawl, pro play has also integrated hanzo in poke dive (ball dva pharah hanzo mercy ana/zen comps) as well as t2 and t3 scenes.

??? Do u even read anything?

Map dependent. Widow is one of the heroes that creates most space by sheer existence. Generally far better on defense nonetheless.

Tf are u even saying? Literally one of hardest heroes to focus fire.

Huh??

Again back to the pocketing. With this logic 90% of roster is bad. Heroes dont rise and fall on their pockets.

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I mean if you are in GM top 500 or in pro play maybe, outside of that she is a close range DPS that is easily punished if they make a bad blink. And they do that alot in plat and gold.

try torb, mei, and Pharah. Or learn to aim with ana/lucio/ and bapt. Tank wise hog, Orisa, winston, or the least bothered by her. While d.va and sigma and catch out her ult rather well (as long as your paying attention) .

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Yes that statement is very much in my post. Tracer starts peaking at masters, and the issue isnt really a masters tracer as they’re far far below a gm tracer due the skill the hero requires, but matchmaking puts anyone from like what… 3.4k? At near 4k+ games.

It doesnt have to always stay tracer.

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it wasn’t for a while their, even if she was hovering in a decent B teir at times.

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It was really for majority of this game. Bar goats which was not played for majority of ladder, and died in ladder way before it died in owl (by stage 2 of owl goats has hardly seen play in ladder since bunker and triple dps killed it), and the OG double shield was short lived and any later iteration of double shield had tracer.

Tracer has been meta nonstop ever since global shield nerf. She played in double shield (alongside ashe), played in all forms of dive (alongside other heroes), played in rush (tracer sombra rush is still the best rush comp in game, better than echo reaper and reaper sombra) and played in all forms of poke (hog sig, hog ball, sig ball, ball dva divey poke, hog zarya at start).

Zen and tracer are two heroes that have hardly not seen the light of meta, let alone the light of being viable.

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If Tracer was meta defining we would see permanent dive comps as meta. I’d say she is flexible, but meta defining?

A pocketed Ashe is just straight up better than anything Tracer can do at the highest levels (except maybe against double shield?). She can one shot body Tracer.

I’d argue Bap and Brig are the truest meta defining heroes right now though.

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Tracer was bad during the goats era and it isn’t even up for debate. Goats was not caused by Tracer, it was caused by the devs and their inability to nerf Brig. Whenever Tracer isn’t meta or is in a ‘bad’ place the game overall ends up being bad. Don’t worry though, because of the devs inability to address any problem head-on, Tracer will get the worst end of the stick when they nerf mobility creep because of 5v5 in OW2. And then the game will be permanently trash once again.

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I always assumed this was Echo, but then again less people play her compared to Tracer.

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The problem began with dive and Tracer which lead to the creation of Brig, because the devs didn’t want to nerf Dive including Tracer.