Sojourn and Ashe too! Tracer though, never has there ever been a more powerful hero in the game. As long as she’s on the map and you’re on tank, you cannot play the game because she will shoot only you, keeping the passive up and nobody else will shoot her
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Tracer does feel a bit too strong with the debuff to aid her.
I have less than 30 hours on her and i did pretty darn well on her the other day.
And if a near complete newbie on a hero gets second most elims in a match there’s some room for adjustment.
The other 3 mentioned aren’t as bad, but my opinions mostly come from how easy it is for me to get value with them and how successfully they harass my team’s backline around high gold/low plat.
Sojo just needs her railgun weakened and her primary fire strengthened slightly, Soldier needs to lose 1 or 2 points of Damage and Ashe needs an Ammo nerf. I guess Sombra should also be added onto here as well
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Not too outlandish as suggestions. For sombra i would just make her detection range bigger.
I never struggled too much in defeating any of them before the bullet buffs.
If all the bullet changes got reverted, sombra would feel much more balanced as you’d be able to just crouch and sidestep the bullets and avoid most of the damage.
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They tried this before, he basically can’t be good and do less than 20 per shot these days.
Launch brig, sojourn, sigma just to name a few were certainly stronger. Also what kind of bad tracer spends all game only shooting the tank?
He has been at 19 for a while and doing well. Maybe at 18 he would be okayyyy, 17 and would be crap.
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He was okay in the context of the time, but he got crept to 20 for a reason.
Yes. But I mean he is 19 right now. And has been a great dps ever since they brought him to 19 a few seasons ago.
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That is considerable understatement. 
I disagree. Honestly, with his whole kit and the S9 changes I think it is very possible you could even get him down near 15 a shot and he would still be high mid tier. He really is just WAY to strong currently.
But, the only way to be sure would be trying it. And I think Blizzard should nerf him. I think they should drop him to 17 for at least a full season and see how it plays out. Nerf him more if I am right and he still needs another point or two off. Buff him back up to 18 if you are.
Blizzard wanting him OP is why his damage is high.
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Soldier isn’t even the best dps. He is pretty much on par with genji, echo, Ashe, sojourn, sombra. And 15 dmg? Lol cmon now, would be 0 reason to ever pick him.
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Idk what kind of Tracers you’re facing, but if all they do is shoot you to apply the passive, they’ll get way less value than if they went for vulnerable targets first, isolating duels and just distracting the enemy team and supports on her.
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Tracer needs to lose either 1 damage OR 25hp.
Soldier needs to lose either 2 damage or his zero spread primary.
Ashe needs the DPS passive to no longer proc on TNT’s DoT.
Sojourn needs a nerfs to Railgun’s headshot damage. At least down to 180.
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He was on par with Genji competing for the top slot before S9. But he has spiked up more than Genji has (though Genji improved as well). Both have been and still are significantly over performing compared to most heroes. Ashe and Sojourn are a bit above average, high mid tier. Sombra is solid middle. And Echo is low.
Soldier is just really, REALLY, strong.
I think you are vastly underestimating how strong Soldier actually is. But, like I said, if they started with 17 it would tell us really quick who was right. If he still over performs at 17 we would know I was right and 15 or 16 is where he needs to be. If not, then you would be. I would be fine if I was wrong. But I think he would still over perform at 17 unless he got some other, notable nerfs.
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You just called echo low tier. No point in having further conversation about hero balance.
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As a Tank, you really should not lose any game where a Tracer focuses you every fight. Just saying
Its really bizarre but telling at the same time that people try to portray Soldier as this poor victim that never gets to be good and cant possibly be overpowered.
He is too easy and currently a free ride from bronze to GM.
Good.
Soldier should be a niche low pickrate hero above gold.
He is literally the low skill requirements newbie tutorial hero. He has the kit depth equivalent of a puddle.
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Not really. One game isn’t exactly evidence of anything. I’ve popped off on Symmetra before. I suck at Sym, and Sym is Z tier. Good games can happen to anyone on any hero.
Pretty sure he does 19 per shot now
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We may not see eye to eye on Tracer, but your take on Soldier is the exact same as mine lmao
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