Toxic players and dying will to play

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I was gonna go on a whole rant but all I wanna say now is I’m just really sad. Overwatch has been my favorite game since forever now but it is so tough dealing with teammates. QP or Comp somebody either already has a stick up their butt from losing already or has the mental of a literal baby and starts throwing the second the game goes bad.

Add all the natural gaming toxicity on top of being a girl just makes the experience almost unbearable. I used to be the type of person that stood up for my friends or even randoms or myself, I wanted to be kind to as many people as possible to like make the community nicer but it usually gets thrown back in my face.

I enjoy the game and there are good people in the community but I may just quit before I become too bitter. Not looking for sympathy but just wanted to share how I felt chat and overall experience with players has been like recently.

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i prefer toxicty/trash talks instead of trolls, throwers, afk, boosted accounts…

We have block option, mute option but nobody using it. How hard to use it? i cant beileve this kind of stupidy is exist.

Why most players trying to act like there is no way to block/mute players.

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Matches are 1vs9 now, the best is to accept this fact.
And I don’t write it for pleasure.

Well that was already that before, but that’s amplified with the fall of the game.
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OP, I know how you feel. That’s why I turned off both text and voice chat completely. BEST DECISION EVER! I’ve been winning more and enjoying the game more.

Do yourself a favor and just try it for a day or two. I promise you won’t regret it. Honestly ask yourself when was the last time anyone commed something useful? The ping system is far more valuable.

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  1. Dont join chats (just use the ping system)
  2. Dont say that you are a girl (no one has to know)
  3. Report anyone who is toxic (the system is very proficient)
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Might I suggest joining a clan? They are few and far between these days, but there are still some hanging on.

There are some who do prioritize the social experience.

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Very good idea.

It was repeated multiple times, but Overwatch SoloQ and TeamQ, these are two completely different games.
team PvP SoloQ = toxicity.
TeamQ is not necessarily 100% perfect, but at least a little at the opposite of the soloQ.

The games where the soloQ community is friendly are cooperative PvE games. And not necessarily all cooperative games. Only some.
To speak only those I know, Deep Rock Galactic and Final Fantasy XIV, because there is a real will of the developers to make their games friendly for everyone.
I’m going to repeat myself, they are not games with 100% perfect community.
But to give an example that I have already mentioned elsewhere, I recognize a truly toxic person in DRG every 50-75 missions, when with Overwatch2 I can have several in one match at worst.
World of Warcraft, for another example, is a cooperative game at the base, but the choices made by Blizzard have made it much more toxic in his PVE side than a Final Fantasy XIV.

I too are looking for a competitive teamplay PvP game, with little toxicity, but I begin to believe that it does not exist on this planet.

All that is my tought, not an immutable truth.

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Broadly speaking, some people are on this almighty internet crusade for a perfect world where nobody is willing to say anything “worse” than emotionally “neutral,” which is just a humanity-suppressing horse manure cause, and not just because that’s what I’m calling it. People have emotions outside of horny and self-destructive, but those angsty white knights think those are their only options and try to push it on the rest of us whose lives don’t peak at gas station assistant manager.

More directly, though, there’s this stubborn “I shouldn’t have to mute other people; they’re all stupid and mean, and I don’t like them” policy they have to hold near and dear to their hearts to feel like they’re not wastes of meat.

Be the difference. Embrace your feelings and find out what your non-comfort zone limits are. Appreciate that you’re a person and own your faults as they arise. That’s where personality comes from.
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:beers::hamburger:

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Rock and stone brother! I think I’ve only ever seen 2 genuinely toxic players in my many, many hours of Deep Rock Galactic. The DRG community truly is a breath of fresh air in the world of video games.

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There is probably somewhere a Discord server like “Overwatch for Ladies Only”
It can be a good solution.

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What I did a while ago (like, pre OW2, early on OW1) was find a group of people who played and were nice.

It’s no fun playing a game where every second you know people are poop talking you for who knows what and even though you can’t see it it’s still there and a possibility.

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I know there was one that was active on these forums back in the day. Unsure what the situation is now.

I also know there are clans that don’t tolerate things like harassment regardless of gender.

I can really only speak for certain about my own clan, which does prioritize the social experience, which is why I know we exist. I don’t want to push us as the only option though. It’d be a bit presumptive to assume we’d be the best fit for the OP, not to mention a bit creepy.

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I think this is a solid reality of life itself, ya know? The world is full of monsters and bad situations, and the real end goal is to get to the end without being turned into a monster yourself.

And this is true in gaming and social circles as well. I mean, I fully support your decision to get out if it’s affecting your mental health and outlook. But I’ve spoken about this before, and I do think the key is being able to invalidate the words of these people.

I realize that’s a hard task, so I’m not saying “Just do this, EZ. lul 4Head.” XD But I think it’s the reason I’m not as bothered by this stuff anymore. Just knowing the person is at fault and not me or the person they’re abusing, right? While also having some level of sympathy for the villain and realizing they’re human and are really bad at controlling their emotions, and probably have a ton of problems internally to make them act this way.

I don’t know how to explain it exactly. It’s kind of like … hmm. I guess they can dislike or even hate me all they want, but since I don’t hate them, it’s just kind of funny and they have no power? Does that make sense?

It’s also best to try and deescalate rather than fight back and engage in vengeful conversation. I know people feel right and justified in doing so, but overall it’s pointless and will often just get you banned, or at the very least make you feel even worse as it draws out more vile words from the person. Aggression is like fire, and it’ll only grow with more flames. You can bite your tongue and even throw some water on there for a better result.

Anyway, I always fear about coming off as sounding superior or something when I talk about this. It’s not that at all, it’s just I’ve kind of figured out this one aspect of life in my almost 37 years, and so I try to explain it and teach others so they can beat this monster too.

Regardless, I wish you well. Bitterness is probably the most destructive emotion to have, so if it does become an issue, then I wholeheartedly think you should do what works for you to avoid it. But I do hope things get better and you don’t have to quit something you love. <3

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i agree with oneeyedmedic about looking for an inclusive group to play with. i still value the social aspect of the game with randoms so i understand its frustrating to deal with peoples impatience or toxicity, especially because its impossible to open mic without having to deal with casual sexism. i suppose i focus more to appreciate my own gameplay to appease any anger i have to argue back. instead report them when you have the chance. taking shorter breaks, like maybe doing a few squats between toxic matches has helped my mood from feeling bitter.

hope youll find a solution that doesnt bring you bitterness and if you do please share them to the rest of us

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That is so true it hurts. :cry:

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Then stop playing. Simple as that. No need for an entire thread about it.

Want to keep playing the game? Turn off your chat. Use the block button. Avoid annoying players. Squelch chat. Leave the voice chat.

You have like 30 options on avoiding toxic behavior and by complaining about how toxic the game is, you just make it more restrictive. That leads to more salty players, more throwers, and more complaint threads about toxicity.

Just Stop. Using. Chat.

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My bigger fear in this game, too.
Become bitter, embittered, disillusioned, and in the end adopt the harmful attitudes that I denounced.
Have the control of your negative emotions, staying master of them, not becoming its slave, it’s easy to write, much harder to do.
To take refuge in logic and rational reasoning becomes harmful when it is to use excessively, we are human beings endowed with sensitivity, not machines animated by software.
We all have a resistance limit, and it can be broken at any time, only the time required differs.
You have to find your own solution to this toxicity problem, joigning a clan can be a solution, leaving for another game, another solution.

Toxicity is not only the words, but also the acts. The second is much more vicious, and traumatic by accumulation.
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I’ll say it again, do what I did and turn off text and voice chat! Try it for a day and you’ll be convinced. My rank has been increasing faster, more consistently, and best of all I’ve enjoyed the game FAR more. Do your mental health and sanity a favor, just turn off the toxicity by turning off chat and voice.

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i will be honest here im tired of people being toxic towards female gamers like gaming is also for girls as well i rarely speak in voice chat though im a dude who can sometimes mix upp words

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Big doubt on that one chief.