Following the thread about Brigitte winrates. Let’s check out Torb win rates on overbuff!
| Torb Winrate(%)* | Grandmaster | Master | Diamond | Platinum | Gold | Silver | Bronze |
| PC | 58.02 | 55.78 | 55.57 | 55.38 | 55.09 | 54.48 | 52.71 |
| XBox | 58.76 | 54.05 | 58.60 | 58.09 | 57.88 | 55.99 | 46.74 |
| PSN | 46.99 | 51.39 | 55.11 | 56.45 | 56.59 | 54.88 | 51.69 |
Good God. You basically have to have Torb on your team or you lose.
(Or you do not?)
P.S. statistics are fun.
Pickrates > Winrates.
And in the case of Brigitte Pickrates + Winrates are greater than anything.
well Torb also has like 5% pick rates across the board so…
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
Why so?
Winrates show objective reality.
Pickrates show if the community knows about the meta and if it plays it.
If Blizz can use pickrates as a reason to stop working on Mercy, then I can use Torb’s winrates as a reason to nerf, yeah? /s
people dedicated to torb after two years can play to win because they know how heavily the deck is stacked against him and have to use everything form map awareness to teammate health and play styles to win.
Clearly not?
Mercy had 99.99% Pickrate and only 49-50% Winrate.
The winrate shows that she was the most balanced hero ever.
The objective reality is that Mercy had near perfect 50% winrate because every team had a Mercy resulting in one losing and other winning.
Think again.
Pickrate means torb doesn’t always work and doesn’t work on every map… those good stats are mostly from maps he’s good at and on defence… while brig litteraly works on everything…
again, 5% pick rate out of 6 defense heroes.
his numbers are actually still pretty bad. improved, but is still bad.
FaneL is not exactly right in saying that pick rate > win rate, since we need both to know if the statistic is meaningful or not.
I mean, based on overbuff Symm has the highest win rate.
Does that mean she’s the best support pick?
Not exactly. Low pickrates also skew winrates.
For example, if only one person had picked Brigitte last week in comp, and they won, then Brig would have a 100% winrate.
Edit: Also what Kiwi said. ^ This also applies to Symmetra.
Lol. Nice thread. It’s a shame that you didn’t throw in the pickrates like I did when I made the Brigitte percentages thread.
Since you won’t, I will.
| Torbjorn Pickrate(%)* | Grandmaster | Master | Diamond | Platinum | Gold | Silver | Bronze |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PC | 0.38 | 0.57 | 0.55 | 0.54 | 0.57 | 0.80 | 1.35 |
| XBox | 0.94 | 0.71 | 0.63 | 0.63 | 0.98 | 1.72 | 2.01 |
| PSN | 0.49 | 0.77 | 0.72 | 0.71 | 1.12 | 1.56 | 2.47 |
Tbh the problem is not the win rate but On fire time, she got the highest percentage of ALL champion in the last week barely doubling the second. Somethings going wrong here blizzy…
What i was trying to say is that Pickrates comes first, winrates second.
Torb has 0.5% pickrate or something. Just cause many people use him in part of the maps that he actually adds value the average winrate is so high. Same with sym.
Torbjörn, together with Symmetra, also has a way higher tie-rate than any other hero in the game, which combined with his low pick-rate indicates he’s primarily used on defense.
High pickrate + high winrate = Overpowered
Low pickrate + high winrate = Underappreciated
not understanding how win rates does not correlate with pick rates. LUL Brigitte is a must pick and has insane pick rates. Torb is a situational niche pick and usually swapped off when it doesn’t work. THAT is why he has a high win rate.
No it doesn’t. For the majority of the playerbase they field Torb and Sym on defense maps and when the first point is lost they switch off. So even if they lose the loss won’t be attributed to Torb/Sym. The opposite is also true, if Torb/Sym end up holding the first point they get the win attributed to them.