Torbjorn doesn't feel like Torb anymore

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His turret feels like a side feature, and his Overload is a mini nano on cooldown. And his whole theme surrounding armor just got completely reversed.

I don’t think they went the right way with this.

My proposed changes:

  • Keep turret changes (throwable but with reduced health. No more level 1 turret. Target prioritization. That kind of thing.)
  • Revert Ult back to the former molten core.
  • Put current Molten core on E, but with only one splash of lava rather than the multiple shots he gets now.
  • Scrap armour pack system. Instead, Torb’s hammer can now be used to repair the armour of other heroes who’s base health has it.
  • Convert 50 of Torb’s 200 health to armour.

I feel this version of Torbjorn would feel better and more like Torbjorn than the current version. Afterall, it feels like his entire new kit was built just to specifically counter Brigitte, who already has a bunch of counters AND just got ANOTHER nerf. If anything, shouldn’t he synergize WITH his daughter, not be focused on negating her in every way?

It just feels like he completely negates the three heroes he’s supposedly closest to and should perform best when paired with in-lore: Reinhardt, Brigitte, and Bastion. And I feel that that’s just…wrong.

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his turret always was a side feature, except during molten core

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They did it to Symmetra too, Torb and her were builders and were different from the rest of the roster. Now they are just basic DPS heroes.

For Torb, I want old molten core and armor packs back.

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The game should never ever be balanced around lore. Ever.

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The point of the rework was for Totb not to be like old Torb.
Old Torb was garbage tier.

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Torb was not garbage tier

he was PERCEIVED as garbage tier

Reality was not the same as perception

Blizzard made it clear that the rework was to combat the perception problem - not any real problems with the character

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He was good in a select few situations and really bad everywhere else. Overall he was pretty much garbage tier.

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I’ll repeat - he was not garbage tier

he was perceived as garbage tier when in fact he was not

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Why do you think he was not garbage tier? Because in my experience he was pretty much garbage in almost every scenario.

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Yes, you are one of the many players who had a bad, baseless impression of Torb

Kinda a moot issue tho

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Dude, I’m genuinely curious as to why you don’t think he was trash. Can you give me an answer?

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He was actually pretty good outside of his turret requiring a lot of time to prepare and his armor packs being completely reliant on whether or not you were winning. That’s all that needed changing. Other than that, like with his ultimate, he was actually fine and didn’t need changes.

Which is why I agree with the base turret changes they made and the scrapping of the scrap armour system. But I still feel armour should have remained in some way, i.e. repairing other heroes’ armour, and his ultimate should not have been changed.

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No, he was garbage tier, turret is easily destroyed and unless you used right click he hit like a wet noodle lol

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Because I actually bothered to learn how to play the character effectively, and as such, learned that the widely held perception of the character was baseless and false

again - moot now

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he was not garbage tier - folks PERCEIVED him that way, when he actually was not

the turret is even more easily destroyed now that it was previously, and with less available uptime to boot

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He has been out for not even a quarter of a day. This is to make him viable, and from the looks of it, I think it looks good.

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How about, like, specific reasons as to why you believed he was better. Because all you’ve given me right now is your claim that the “Widely based perception was baseless and false”. You aren’t giving me much proof here.

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Attack Torb was garbage tier.

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I learned how to play the character correctly

Most players simply chose to accept the widely held belief that he was a troll pick

This perception - not reality - is what led Blizzard to rework the character

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It would really help if there were some examples or stats or something to back you guys up, if for no other reason than watching “yes he was” “no he wasn’t” gets old really fast

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