Torb Shotgun = Reaper Shotgun vs Tracer

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So I was in the practice range the other day, and I was testing shotgun hitboxes vs Tracer.

Fun fact. Reaper’s shotgun, starting at the 0 m line in front of Tracer takes about 4 shots to kill her, center of mass aiming.

Torbjorn’s shotgun takes around 3-4.

Seems about fair right?

Except…Torb’s shotgun is projectile…AND DOES 30% LESS DAMAGE PER SHOT.

I never realized Reaper’s spread was this bad, even compared to other shotguns.

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Imagine Reaper’s shotguns with the spread of Torb’s.

Now you know why.

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torbs shot guns suck. also reapers fire rate is quicker.

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I would guess that Reaper was designed for Tank sized hitboxes.

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i hate the star spread of torbs shotgun

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Reaper’s shotgun spread is pathetic and this is what’s preventing him to be good. No matter how many times you buff his abilities, he’ll never be good because he need to point at almost point blank to deal any significant damage to anyone.
As an avid shotgun user in any fps/action game, i notice it since day one that reaper would not be good because of his shotguns…
i can count on one hand the amount of times i’ve seen a worse shotgun

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Problem is, buff damage and he’s GOD in short range.
Buff his spread and he’s one-shotting people from 10 feet away.
I think they should do the following:
Nerf his damage and buff his spread SIGNIFICANTLY
Or, give him longish range grenades like in his short, and maybe give him a speed boost after use so it can be a mid-range initiation ability for him.

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Reapers shot gun is hit-scan so its more reliable.

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Make him better and you’ll make the 5 main tank players playing this game quit

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Yeah, I don’t disagree with this.

I think if they cut his spread back, nerfed his damage, and made his engage/disengage better, they could honestly axe his life-steal ability and he’d be stronger from a better variety of ranges without necessarily being unstoppable because of it. Even with it, he’s still pretty bad though.

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He has a turret that is 40m range which does 56 damage a second

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yeah, i know this already.

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I’d like to see his spread reduced alongside his damage. Make him better against squishies, but worst against tanks. And buff his abilities as they’re really boring gn. TP is setup and wraith is disengage. Reaper would benefit having abilities that flow with his gameplay like Tracer’s

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