Top1 support can't carry useless team

For some reason when I was scrolling on YouTube i saw a video “Unranked to gm” by the nr 1 support player Crook

Never heard of him but I watched a little bit of his games…

His ranking on the smurf acc before this next game is silver 1…

They got New junk map, and oh boy was I glad I watched that…

His reaper died all the time, the rest of his team was completely lost and solo all around the map and dying…

He asked them several times to fall back and or group up but no succes… I even said out loud…"I feel you man, welcome to my world😂

They lost the 2 first points… 3th half way for the enemyteam… and Crook said

“This is hopeless, nothing I can do here but take the loss”

Great words I needed to hear after losing 5 games in a row today.

90% of my games are exactly like that game…( I Solo support mostly)

If the nr1 support can’t do nothing and feel hopeless then how are silver/gold/plat players gonna do?

Exactly… Feel even more hopeless…

Glad I’ve been watching that gameplay… It’s educational so I might watch some more later…

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this just in, Overwatch is a TEAM game…weird right!!!.

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He should be banned.

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Eh… I’ve never heard of this guy. I’ve seen plenty of other big names who are arguably top 10 streamer type players do supports from unranked to GM while also handicapping themselves and still pull it off in a day. I mean handicaps like literally doing zero heal runs or having the account start as like bottom 500 bronze. I remember a few different lucio streamers who carried up through like diamond+ doing zero heals or damage aside from tactical boops.

just depends on your team.

Some games just feel like this IDK.

You can’t carry stupid players. Some games are lost because people aren’t interested in playing the game “properly”

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While you can brute force your way through the ranks, yes this the truth of it. You are given unwinnable games due to players just being too gapped. Unranked too GM is also kinda bs coz you are using fresh accounts with a different MM formula.

On top of that you have the streamer advantage, if he was famous everyone would listen too him and let him lead them.

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I watched his video 2 times. One time live on Twitch and then after it was uploaded to Youtube. As an Ana main it was magnificent to watch.

A couple of side notes tho, he ended up like 62-2. Like he only lost 2 matches out of the 64 he played. Those losses are negligible. The first match he lost where it was an unwinnable match happens to everyone in every elo no matter the skill level.

What fascinated me the most is how his team had the upper hand in the majority of matches. Like when I try to do something he does or position the way he does I have million people on me instantly. I load up in a match and we get spawncamped lmao. I get 3 losses in a row where my entire team goes negative.

That never happened to him in this run. Of course there is a huge difference between him and I and the rest of the video he duoed with another Pro player playing Monkey, so there was literally nothing metal ranks could do about it so watching it, it all looked like freelo and extremely easy games.

In reality it is way harder to achieve that unless you yourself are a T500 support. HIs sleeps and nades always get a follow up. I sleep and anti someone and my team completely ignores them. l take high ground and everyone jumps on me. He was not even that much focused.

But in the end the reality is he has not only a way better aim than I do, but also his positioning is better, he rotates faster than I do, he acknowledges threats coming his way faster than I do. He hits way more shots than I do, lands his abilities more consistently than I do and is overall better. The only thing he proved in his video is that you need to be better than your team and your opponents to climb consistently.

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Yeah, probably context is a big part here. Just landing sleeps/antis is one thing, but landing them at the correct time and at the correct targets is another thing so to say.

Many people who watch high level players kind of easily miss the “when and why” that top level player does the things they do. They know when they can take an aggressive off angle and when to back off.
A player trying to just “copy” that playstyle by randomly going off angles will not get the same value.

ie. what i’ve seen in some vods from say gold level players who say that “i try to take off angles” etc, they dont really have much of thought behind it often.
Or they will “go highground” religiously when its to their detriment.

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Exactly. I have noticed the same thing with my own gameplay. Like when I play Kiriko I try to use the Awkward approach, take an off angle try to get a kill and TP out but in 80% or more cases that does not work because my team always dies when I try to do it. Then I figured out that my timing is wrong. It is wrong in many things. Repositioning, landing sleep and anti, flanking as Kiri etc. so now I currently am trying to work on that and focus on that more.

Once you start paying real attention to this game you realize how many little things you were missing that ended up being game changing and a difference between a win or a loss. Many players do not realize that or pay attention to it.

More like 25-30% but whatever you need to tell yourself to cope.

thanks for giving the name, Ill make sure to report him

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It’s so funny when they lose. Especially when they cry and blame their team after like they always tell their viewers not to do.

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They were 27 wins 1 losses when they hit Masters. So you should not feel hopeless, if they had a 96% winrate.
One loss out of 28 games should not discourage anyone.

edit: oh, there was two recent vids from him. in the other one he hit masters on 45-2. Which is also 95% winrate.

Man sounds like the match I had when our Reaper left after we were fighting for the last point. We won the first 2 lost the 3rd and was fighting for the forth. Our reaper was more playing mystery heros and kept changing characters… He died to their mauga and left. We still managed to pull through and win the last point. when a comp match turns 4v5 but you still manage to win it

There are only three things these videos prove.

1: That the person doing them has no soul, because they are willing to smurf and ruin other peoples games

2: that there is such a thing as EH.

3: that maybe they just arent that good and got up to where they are through sheer luck

I mean im stuck. I used to be diamond a few seasons ago. And now im gold 1. And I cant get back to plat. Games I lose are almost always stomps, nothing I can ever do to change it. pro tip tho, solo ulting a moira always beings joy to life.

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How does it prove that elo hell exists?

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cause even the rank one support cant carry a team of silvers.

and its not because the enemy was better, its because his team wouldnt listen

So they reached masters with 95% winrate. Losing 1 or 2 games in the process.

You think because there was one game they lost elo hell exists?

That is quite high standard, if no elo hell does require 100% win rate.

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man idk, all I know is it sure feels like it exists

I also know that unranked to Gm players should all be banned, because its not fair to anyone they are playing against.

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Not at all

None of these are proven by any of these videos

Not at all

Smurfing does not equate to the absence of a soul

I dont appreciate having t500 players in my not t500 matches, but if they are doing bronze to gm i probably only see them once or twice in my level band, and o may have lost those matches even if they werent there

So no

Not at all.

The player in question proves that with better play than those others in your match, you advance. Not that this requires any proof, but no…it suggests the exact opposite of ELO hell, if anything

So again, no

One does not go 45 and 2 (or whatever) solely on luck…and further, it is even less likely when said player can repeat the same result on multiple attempts

So again, no

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