Continuing the discussion from Overwatch 2 Retail Patch Notes – October 15, 2024:
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Still not enough im afraid, this is just a bandaid if anything
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There really trying with this 5v5 tank thing and tbh they’ve been cooking this has been like one of the best seasons ever after the dva nerfs and no tank has really like hard “Countered” anyone oh and who the hells idea was it to buff Mauga?
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I still see Zarya swaps every match countering D.Va and Orisa, Mauga melts monke and Ram,
Hog makes doom unplayable
See like this ones semi fine obviously there’s still ya know advantage but also as soon as your dps goes Bastion into that Zarya that’s GG.
Mauga is the only hero I can honestly say is… Ugghhh ewwwwwwww… Your right about him but he is a… Problem tank.
The hog doom match up it depends on if your doom knows the 1 secret ancient rule of doomfist the rule that separates the trash from the legends.
I remember being one of the people who suggested basically this very same thing. It’s fantastic that they’re actually going for it 
And sidenote, I’m SO glad the Brig nerfs are perfectly reasonable, and that for Juno they really did just focus on toning down her healing. I think we’re going to be fiiiiiine (though that Bap change might mess with muscle memory a little bit)
This update is crap… and goes to show that Blizzard doesnt listen to their fanbase and craps on anyone that they dont like. Its a bunch of changes to things that were non-problems, and reduction in neglected heroes. Then they update their best maps to be ultimately worse… Just another crappy example of Blizzard taking this game lower than it was before. I hate that i like the game. Its in a pathetic state compared to what overwatch 1 was.
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Haha! Now no one will know what hero I will swap to!
Not going to fix anything. Just delaying the inevitable which is the countering itself.
Someone also could abuse it by swapping in and out just to keep the enemy in the dark.
not even this is worse. this doesnt prevent counterswapping. this prevents counter-counterswapping. so now you wont even know if they have an advantage which is even more unfair towards the person being countered
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And Hog.
I’ve learned a lot playing RQ mystery heroes. Tanks are a mess. You win depending on the tanks you get often. Sometimes the tank just goes through with 0 deaths because the other team doesn’t get a good counter. This happens a lot with DVa, Mauga and Sigma. Sometimes Queen, but she usually over-extends at some point, as does hog, and dies.
Tanks are very much still based around relative strength and still require a lot of counter-swapping, which you don’t get in MH so you see what doesn’t work in tank match-ups. \
Play RQ MH and other team gets DVa and you just hope to get beam heroes or she just won’t die. At least with Hog and Mauga they still die without Ana, but DVa rarely does without beams unless it is just a bad DVa player.
Thanks!
I don’t think there should ever be a true answer to swapping, but anti swap countermeasures like this should have been in the game at the start. Swapping should be the benefit you get from dying; I lost that fight, but now I have options.
Instead, people would just wait in spawn to see what you swapped to, and then swap accordingly. That’s crazy, and 15 second could be enough to counter that.
Countering IS good. Swapping IS good, but the swap abuse and swap meta isn’t.