So in conclusion we should nerf Moira’s damage, did I miss 30+ shots and have enough time to reload twice yes but that’s not important!
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It’s nothing personal. It’s just that my Reinhardt eats through more corn flour than a Boston Market during the dinner rush. The only way I can keep him up is if I borrow someone else’s, and when the team’s meatwall is trying hold Thermopylae Pass fifteen miles from the point, anyone in range will do.
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To be fair, the problem with Moira for most people who dislike her is not how much damage she does but how easy it is to apply. You can miss, the Moira cannot. So the effort you have to put into the 1v1 is higher than the effort she does.
All things being equal if you hit your shots, you should win the duel. If Moira’s damage was higher then it really would not be good balancing. The damage in the game is already on damage creep levels. We need to nerf some damage (especially burst damage) not make other heroes higher damage.
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Pretty much what lumin said. If it’s an actual 1v1, prettty much every hero can kill her faster. But miss a few shots and you lose while the moira didn’t have to do much. Not saying she is op or a problem or anything.
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This pretty much
It’s not about being overpowered cause she is in fact one of the weaker heroes in the game
It’s the guaranteed/skewed way the encounter takes place. EVERY encounter with a Moira is as follows:
You now have X amount of time to live (depending on how much hp you have when it starts) . You can either hit the moving stick figure enough or not. Ability usage may or may not be helpful. Meanwhile your opponent is not making any effort. They will NOT miss. Their abilities are guaranteed to help (and will not miss either). And your effort is also being mitigated because she is healing throughout so even if you are landing your shots it’ll still take longer than any other hero. Running away will be difficult as she can chase you down easily or hit you around the corner. If you do happen to get close to taking her down she is more than likely getting away anyway as she has one of the better escape tools in the game. The clock is ticking
With just about every other hero in the game an encounter can go any number of ways depending on what the players do and what skill they possess
Every encounter with Moira is the same. The clock has started. You either kill her in that time or you’re dead and you will be the only one making an effort during it. (It’s not uncommon to land hits during the fight and when it’s over she’s still at full hp)
It’s a (slow) “event” - it’s not really a fight.
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just dont miss…
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Ah you see…that’s where you messed up….you made an effort….the Moira didn’t make that mistake there
i didnt miss this one
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The only thing missing there was dying to an orb anyway after the fact (which might have happened if you weren’t in spawn 
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This is old, but still was one of my more interesting Moira kills:
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvwK45gaCsU
The Cassidy player didn’t see the orb. Thought I was somehow hitting him through the wall… lol
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exactly, we should buff genji
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Killing her is not always an option since she can fade away hehe.
I die to Moira pretty much every single day if I mess up as Genji, and I mess up a lot. It’s a relatively fun matchup, though. And I usually come out on top. Just not always!
Supps are often died more by dps moira than by Genji/Tracer in metal ranks. She’s the best flanker below gold/plat. The only problem is your team easily becomes 1 tank 3 dps 1 supp.
Ok but why is that a bad thing. Thats what I never get. If you wanna play a high skill hero part of that is growing pains of learning said hero. If you dont want to and are ok with settling for mediocrity you can moira. Idk why Moira is the bad guy if someone cant get over their ego. Playing a high skill hero poorly is not an excuse to nerf moira
I’m not suggesting we nerf Moira. I’m just suggesting we don’t buff her. Because like you said:
The trade off that Moira has for no aim requirement is mediocrity. All I’m saying is that’s OK. It’s OK for Moira to be mid. If they were to buff her damage though, then that would remove a lot of the reason to learn a more aim intensive hero.
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Agreed. I thought you were insinuating that she deserves a damage nerf which she really doesnt
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No, she is fine as she is. No need to nerf her. No need to buff her either at the moment I don’t think. Just let Moira be Moira.
But we should tune down some of the burst DPS damage dealers like Freja and Sojourn to maybe give an opportunity for others to shine a bit more.
I once kept killing a genji as moira, he had died to me in my backline 4 times when he wrote “moira, please stop killing me”.
I answered “stop diving my ana and i won’t kill you”
He did stop trying to dive my ana that i was bodyguarding, so i didn’t kill him outside from brawling on the point.
He tried to dragon my ana on the next map so i hosed him down with coal and sent him to spawn.
“Moira pls no”
“You attacked my ana. You deserved that”
No one touches my support buddy 
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… watch me!
lol