Then if Zarya and Tracer aren’t political, we can accept that a hero with X background won’t be either. Trust the devs, they’ve been knocking it out of the park thus far.
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You’re right, they have! I think you may be misunderstanding where I’m coming from? That, or I am misreading your comments. If that’s the case, I apologize.
It’s not the devs we have to worry about.
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Pray tell who it is then that we need to worry about. Who is the enemy we must fear and destroy?
Fun is subjective.
Just because you don’t like something in a video game, that doesn’t mean everyone feels the same.
Wanting representation in something doesn’t mean you can’t also have fun while playing it. If you feel bad about it, you’re not going to have fun or want to play it.
Representation in something big like Overwatch can be a really big step forward.
Take Symmetra, for instance. She is autistic, and Overwatch just sort of casually slipped it in there. It can help change negative view points or incorrect things people thought. Maybe seeing such a character has no impact on you, but it has big impacts on other people. “Wow, this big mainstream thing has a character like me!” It feels really nice.
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The players.
The devs can make an amazing character, but the players will find something to make a stink about.
Like D.Va’s police skin. :I
except that a majority of overwatch’s lore and interactions are steeped in racism against omnics.
Overwatch is fun for me because of three things:
- The game itself.
The game has a wide variety of kits and play styles, introducing variance to a game that would be otherwise bland. Beautiful maps, awesome art styles, and great voice acting make for a popular game.
- The lore.
I like the lore. Omnics fed up of being kicked around and revolting. People getting caught in the crossfire and dying. People beginning to fear something that just wanted to be equal. Shady organizations taking advantage of both sides to further their agenda. It’s interesting, despite the lack of info for the past few months. Then, we have hero lore! All unique and their own person. Some don’t make sense, sure, but it’s good stuff.
- the people this game attracts.
I’ve been playing online games for around 10 years. I’m a girl. I’ve seen some nasty stuff. Overwatch, though? I’ve met more girls here that play too than any other game. I’ve met some mean people, but they’re rare. People who play overwatch are generally good people. Tilted, maybe, but mostly good. I’ve met a gaming group that is full of polite people who I adore greatly, and spend time with every day. I’ve got people on my friends list who are the epitome of good. Overwatch’s diversity and inclusiveness has encouraged a lot of people who don’t play FPS to join us and has boasted an amazing amount of players for it.
I think it’s harmless to ask after things. If they’re demanding, write them off as rude-- but most everyone I’ve seen has been nothing short of polite.
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Yeah, how dare people talks about inclusion, in a game whose core message is about inclusion, about how great individuals can be, no matter where they come from; a game that celebrate differences, whose tag lines is basically “everyone can be a hero!”
IT’s not an agenda if it’s in the core identity of the game, bud.
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Again, I reject the idea that the other fans of Overwatch are obstacles to be overcome.
I don’t like fan service. I think it cheapens things, and I will state as much occasionally. But who am I to police what people can or cannot request? I will answer that – no one. It is not my place to act as the arbiter of asking. I am not in charge here.
Neither are you, the OP or anyone else. There is no enemy to conquer. A person asking for something different is not something to be crushed, defeated or otherwise driven away or silenced. Let others enjoy the same rights that you would like to enjoy.
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There is a way to do it, however.
There is asking, demanding and rioting.
Simply asking is fine. But demanding and throwing fits is not fine.
I’m referring to when people do more than request.
Regarding the D.Va skin, people were going all over the place calling Blizzard racist and pretty much rioting because they gave D.va a police skin because of how some police were acting in the US. They were throwing a fit and behaving like children simply because they gave a Korean girl a police uniform.
You’re acting like people are just calmly saying ‘hey I would like this’. But not all of them are. There are people harassing and being toxic to others about it.
Would that include not being harassed or attacked because of your choice? Because there are people who want such representation who do that.
So yeah, fans (for anything) can be a big roadblock to things. Fanpandering is very much alive.
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You guys take a very liberal definition of ‘rioting’. No riots were held over the D.Va skin. And no riots have been held over hero diversity. This appropriate of language serves to dehumanize the people you are targeting. That’s not cool.
Rioting online.
Why did you throw out everything else I had to say just to focus on that one word? 
What about the rest of what I said?
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I disregarded everything else you said because it was covered by what I told you last – you are not in charge here. You do not get to police what other people request.
I am not taking Neopets comment as a way of them “policing”, they’re just stating that there’s correct ways to do something, and the incorrect way.
Think about Black Friday! People go INSANE and literally will fight each other over sales, lol. That is NOT the right way. The right way is to be civil and normal humans and respect one another.
They’re not targeting an entire group of people, they’re just pointing out the ones that do not handle the situation properly, and that really applies to anything.
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That statement is a whole another disscusion which is still higly debated.
Are games truly art? Is hide-and-seek a piece of art? What about football or chess? Are they art?
This is not relating the the disscusion of the thread, but i want to say that you started your point with a big assumption.
I have yet to see images of anyone kicking the doors of chain stores down or trampling people or stealing merchandise from the carts of others in response to anything Overwatch-related. In fact, the only thing I have ever seen in regards to that are people complaining on the internet, much like you, your friend and the OP have been doing. I support your right to complain. I do not support your efforts to silence others and remove their right to do so.
Now, I have to leave to do some real world stuff. You may go ahead and declare victory in your culture war, and denounce me as the great obstacle that was defeated. Just understand that people are still going to request diverse heroes. You may not like it but that is their right, and since you’re not in charge you don’t get a say in who-wants-what-and-for-why.
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I’m not trying to silence anyone 
You’re sounding a little offended, and I’m a bit confused. You can’t admit you didn’t read someone’s entire comment then make judgments about what kind of person they are.
Also, I am not saying OW IS Black Friday. It was just an analogy. There’s right and wrong ways to do things. Raiding a store on Black Friday and punching someone in the face for a television is widely frowned upon.
Asking for equal rights is perfectly fine and respected. I’m a female. I’d love to be making as much money as the men in the same role that I have!
But there’s a way to do it in a productive manner that people respect, where stuff actually gets done, and then there’s the way of berating people and insulting others when someone doesn’t slightly agree with 100% of what they’re saying. They even get mad at others in the same group as them. Extremists in any group are typically not appreciated.
Maybe don’t cherrypick a few pieces of someone’s comment and draw conclusions from it? May help a bit so that we’re all understanding each other. Because, again, I think you’re misinterpreting a lot, and I think it stems from you not reading the full comment.
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I’m just sad that my post was ignored. 
People’s opinion are worth the value you give them ^^
You need to understand that simply because I disagree with your stance does not mean that I am “offended” or “triggered” or “furious”. It simply means that I think you are wrong and have explained why in succinct fashion due to the reality that I don’t want to waste my day going around in circles with you. I’m not going to change your mind, and I have no interest in doing so – I simply think you’re wrong and have said why.
Save the “triggering” nonsense for someone else.