The streamers themselves don’t count, they will praise it because it benefits them. What matters is what people are saying, and there are a lot of negative comments on videos. Look at the comments from people, even IDDQD had to come in Valorants defense saying that it’s getting a lot of hate.
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abilities for starters. some moves can ricochet and you need to aim those too. For a character like Breach, you can flash through walls assuming to hear someone on the other end, but you won’t really know if you flashed them.
You gotta know how to shoot, you can’t move, spray, and pray like you do in OW. It has to be clean and precise. This is where my challenge comes in. I’m not the best at that.
Some of the game takes guesswork and proper gun economy management. It’s a skill that has to be learned over time. It also shares overlap with OW in needing to take down the healer (sage), map design but differs in memorization, like A site, B short, etc, and ult reaction.
OW is simpler in it’s own way that you dont need to worry about precision. It’s more forgiving. Abilities also don’t have a set limit of uses or need to be purchased.
Why use many words when few words do trick?
“Overwatch has been DESIGNED to be beginner friendly.”
This is incorrect. There is a large barrier to entry in both map, hero, and skill knowledge. What it DOES have is variety in required skill. While most people accept this and then go “BUT WHAT ABOUT MOIRA?!?!?!?!?” If you’re dying to Moira, it’s on you. Switching is a skill.
“It’s very clear you’re around gold/plat in overwatch and haven’t fully grasped the game yet”
This directly conflicts with your last statement. The NEXT one you make: “there are easy ways to get into high diamond/master by literally playing specific heroes on autopilot” is simply not true. That’s top 10% of the player base. I’m not sure how to respond to the idea that the difference between the top 10% and the bottom 90% is that the 10% are bots.
“I’d estimate your rank to be around low silver ish if we were to take overwatch ranks.”
You’re just insulting people to try to make your point. This isn’t how arguments are made. Have some more respect for Valorant and make your points.
“Heroes that are extremely low skill gap = high reward”
So really this is just another Moira complaint? You surely don’t think Widow is low skill high reward? Or Tracer? Or Genji? Or Ana? Or Wrecking Ball? Or Zen? Or Baptiste? Would you say you’re less complaining about OW, and more complaining about maybe…3 heroes on the whole roster that are you don’t like having to switch off to counter?
“Bigger hitboxes”
Weirder, too. Setting aside the infinite acceleration issue, and how they squish, etc, this is true. The problem is that with OW’s movement, the game would be far more difficult than you would enjoy. TTK would be…extremely high.
“Press 1 button win game abilities”
I think you mean, “press 1 button and if the other team doesn’t counter, win game abilities.” Nearly all abilities have counter play. This one is on you, so I’m going to say it makes OW harder. I don’t like these abilities either, to be honest, but that’s just the game, not the difficulty level.
“Extremely forgiving game, mistakes mean nothing.”
Give me an example of this, because it sounds like you’re just making things up at this point. Did you never watch GOATS played at a high level? Dive? Go ask someone who actually played contenders level GOATS how to play it and come back and tell me that you could make a mistake and get away with it. This is crazy talk.
Saying one is more difficult than the other is kind of pointless, but to shout about how Valorant is hardcore and OW is casual is pretty wrong. OW is freaking hard, and the people who are good at it have dedicated themselves to it. CoD is the same. Why is this a thing, other than to ego boost Valorant players?
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you should watch stream instead out of context clips. The 6 million part was a joke because a sub asked how much RIOT paid him to play the game.
He said multiple times that he likes the game and is visibily happy playing it. I’ve never seen XQC get rekt so many times without him being super mad about it like he does in OW.
dude did you not see the multiple times that I repeated that it was said as a joke?
jesus Christ dude
also I have been watching the streams, I still haven’t gotten a key either lol
Not gonna lie, if they dumbed down the graphics and the resolution … it could easily be a mobile game. Maybe that’s what they’re going for
It hought u meant he said as a joke that he likes the game D:
No key? 
I’ll give you some key luck.
I’m sorry but u’re a bronze player so your opinion is in my mind invalid. No point arguing with people who don’t even understand the game they are playing. No offense, but there is nothing to argue.
Jeff said himself the game is designed to be easy to learn. And the things I’ve listed have been repeated over and over again from tons of players in master+ ranks.
here’s the thing…
riot wants to corner the competitive market for each genré of games.
this is one of their attempts at blowing money on a project that could potentially earn them more money and potentially establish a monopoly on competitive gaming.
but if you truly want something as an e-sport fan and of the fps genré, i’d say a good arena fps needs to come back.
it’s one of the e-sports with the smallest scene that definitly deserves more recognition than it is getting right now.
and honestly i’m so onboard with diabotical that’s gonna come out, it’s for players by players specifically to be a competitive game that could be advertised and you could put sponsor billboards in game etc.
so if any new fps is gonna be big i hope it’s diabotical.
Ohhhh quake arena player detected.
unreal tournament, but hey that dream got shot down when fortnite got big,
my hopes up on diabotical as of now.
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Sorry I am late.
You’re entitled to your opinions.
But Valorant hitboxes are not as large as large as OW so flicking is less accurate.
also this thread sounds like most of you played maybe 3 games max.
Now that was a team game that had solo carry potential also. CTF anyway. 
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hells yeah, do you remember the names? i used to play all the bots, renegade, widowmaker, corrosion, can’t remember the fourth though.
favourite weapons, the rocket launcher, the flack cannon and the shock rifle.
but i’ve been playing some quake champions and i felt a lot of promise from it, however i didn’t enjoy the fact that there was different characters with “ultimates” and such.
so crossing my fingers for diabotical 
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I don’t think they have played at all to be honest. Even after the first game it’s very noticable how much harder it is to hit anything. After playing valorant for the last few days my aim inherintly got so much better in overwatch I steamrolled pretty hard, df + aim = roadroller
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I’m actually 90% sure that 2 mounths after its release, Valorant being the Overwatch killer will be a meme. Damn, the riot fan club (and I say that as someone who played LoL for 3 years) is getting really annoying and hyped on nothing special.
What did you expect from CS GO with abilities taped on?
It’s literally that for me.
Cute. Nope just have my own opinion on games that’s all
Meh… Sigma is pretty much several heroes abilities made a little better and put into the one hero.
first what rank r u and second off the game is way less forgiving than overwatch.