Anytime I start rolling the enemy team as tank, here comes the syms, meis and all the other BS you can think of for the enemy team to try to cheese out a win, it’s nauseating dude. It makes me not even want to grind ranked anymore because if I am doing the best in the lobby they will cheese to nullify me, and then it’s a 50/50 whether my team can be the difference
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This, it’s why Im glad the game went to 5v5 having to deal with all that AND a second tank usually double shield was so mind numbing. People think the “lower ranks” are climbing now because the game simply got dumber or easier, and omg symmetras so easy to beat and the turrets are so low hp and bastion is… For the love of god shut the… And I’m on console as well. If people aren’t in voice heck Ill still end up losing because ONLY I know the specific heros and strategies to beat symmetra (believe it or not the answer is doomfist now or orisa). Is it still annoying? Yes will it cheese out a win against me every now and then? Yes. But waaaay waaaay waaaaaayyyy less then it did in overwatch 1.
The worst part is EVEN IN GM THEY STILL USE THAT DANG TP TO POINT STRATEGY ON KOTH.
Heros like sym, torb, bastion even Junkrat people don’t understand they don’t deserve to be “Good” which I know someones main shouldn’t be punished just because the community can’t handle them (I main sombra but that requires a ton more skill) the skill cap of these heros is low, someone should not lose a game just because they can’t corrdinate with there team to beat a certain hero. (Another thing I’ve noticed especially in ow2 is that a none shot caller will never beat a shot caller so if the enemy team goes torb synmetra specifically you know dang well someone called that out).
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I bet you were cheesing it with genji
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Overwatch was based on hero switching in the middle of the game. It has heroes that soft and hard counter others. Learn them and stop calling everything you can’t deal with “cheese”.
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I would say they are moving hard from that design philosophy though, which is why all the 4 new heroes don’t really have hard counters not do they hard counter.
The funny thing though is people crying cheese are generally on cheese themselves most of them are ow1 heroes
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“I got outplayed, but for some reason it’s emotionally very important to me that the whole world believes it’s not my fault.”
^This thread.
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I wish I had a emotional support like in voice chat saying I’m poggers and it’s not my fault while I’m playing.
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It isn’t cheese though, don’t pick ball… Mei is the perfect counter to ball… Don’t pick hammond or any other speedys… And sym is a joke to winston
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They are, and that’s fine. But we’re still in the realm of “this character makes it very hard to play that character and both of these characters together make it near impossible”.
Also people who call cheese in every game I’ve ever played generally fall victim to some of the EASIEST to counter tactics and kits in the game but refuse to ever learn how to deal with them.
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That would be cool, but it’s easier to just not give a [****] and have fun whether you win or lose.
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I think people just stop dealing with something they deem cheese after a few times and keep getting rekt.
When ever I feel like someone hard countered me with a hero i watch vods from their perspective and then you will see both thair flaws and your own mistakes.
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yep OW is a game of switching heroes non stop, you either switch when you respawn or lose the game.
Back when I started and the game was brand new I would be like “That character is so hard to fight against!!” and so I’d pick them… and… wow… would learn exactly what their weaknesses were so fast.
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Cheesing it with mei and sym?
They take 10x the skill and game awareness to get the same amount of value that boring generalist hitscans like soldier & mccree get from just existing.
Mei is arguably one of the worst DPS in the game now and Sym is easy to play around.
If you’re letting them run up on your holding down their m1’s, that’s on you. Play Zarya, you get insane charge for free and can burn them down a hell of a lot faster than they can you.
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Switch tanks? Preferably off shield ones.
Ball so good against both atm
The enemy team wants to win as well. What do you expect? Just giving up and let you steam roll them?
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This is exactly how I feel except for Junkrat since he has some skill expression, do I feel bad for their main? Yeah just a little bit? But they happen to be the most annoying annoying heroes to play against with little effort into playing them. Of course some of them have skill expression but it’s quite low.
The thing is…the “cheese” heroes usually need more than just 1 person to deal with them or require some sort of coordination etc.
I’m struggling to think of any character aside from the Tanks that lack straight 1 to 1 contesting.
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Kiriko says hi. She’s one of the hardest counters the game has introduced in a long time. Prolly since Brig.