Tired of snipers

It’s probably a skill issue but i literally cannot play games at times due to snipers. I see Widow/Hanzo every match and they just demolish lobbies and nobody can get close enough to deal with them, especially not Hanzo. Get too close and he either one shots you or storm arrows you and usually he sees you through a wall before that so trying to flank is just a big nono and as a support player i have to play against and around walls to even survive for a mere second. I’m about to just main mei and say forget this bs.
I’m sure I could probably play better but it’s usually a sign of bad balance when particular heroes dominate every aspect of a match whether it’s Ana/Kiriko/Widow/Hanzo
Like in terms of support i can’t do anything unless I’m Ana or Kiriko and as an Ana i get sniped off by a Widowmaker if my Rein decides to go through the middle. I literally feel like I’m playing hide and seek all match and it’s the most disappointing thing for me.
Pair that with teammates who just can’t understand that if I’m dead to double snipers 24/7 i can’t help with anything and they get all mad.
Anyway thanks for coming to my Ted complaint fest and feel free to fire away about how bad i am lmao

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thats weird i never see widow much anymore but hanzo… yea lol

still my last 8 games today i seen hanzo about 7 times with a mix of soldier/mccree. the occasional offshoot pharah, mei, bastion or sym. today i havnt seen widow at all… i think maybe she was on my team but switched one game

oh yea yesterday and today i have seen sombra a bit more than usual. one game on both teams. i been queuing tank and support for the past two days for challenges

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Vast majority of Hanzo players are literally just aimbotters, this alone explains why everybody hates snipers. INB4 where is your evidence yadi yadi yada - if you can get to GM playing Hanzo you will find it almost comical how many hardstuck hanzo players in metal/diamond have OWL aim.

You aren’t bad, the anticheat is.

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When i get killed by a widow, im mad but understand that she had to use skill to kill me.

When i get killed by a hanzo im mad becuase he wasnt even aiming at anything just fireing into the fight randomly

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I don’t like the spamzo bs myself, but I kinda don’t understand your post.

How come you can’t do anything unless you are Ana/Kiriko ? Are you dying more as Mercy or Moira ?

Either way, you may want to have a look at Awkward coaching videos even if his ‘damage,damage,damage’ mantra is not to you likening you may get some better idea about a positioning.

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I play both of these heroes and this is 100% correct.

99% of my widow crits are intentional flicks.

99% of my Hanzo shots are “eh, that direction seems good”.

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I play against walls and try to play corners but you can’t do that the entire game.
And usually in the moments I’m exposed I’m one shot. Widow i can respect a little but Hanzo is just RNG spam, he’s not even aiming just staring down one sight-line throwing shots into the crowd and scoring one shots.
I survive as Ana/Kiriko because i can hide around corners or in the backline and heal and damage. Mercy is playing corners or flying around and much like every support has a maximum range for how much she can do and like most supports it’s that window where a sniper eats me alive

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If you think snipers in this are bad. Go play Battlebit where most snipers don’t use long range scopes to avoid scope glare.

127v127. You literally spawn on a team mate and get insta sniped.

I had to adjust my Support playstyle to go with mobile supports now to counter Hanzilla, Tracer, good Sombras and dive comps to survive. My number one rule is to live first or be VERY tough to dive on. Now I can 1v1 All day.

If your team can’t help you switch to Moira or Lucio. Play BHEHIND the tank so you’re not facing damage in mid or backline.

Hope you have fun. When I made the switch I found I can heal better because I will LIVE regardless of Hanzoids! :v:

I play Moira if Hanzo/Widow become problems but occasionally they work around it and that’s not counting my own limitations depending on who I’m playing. Biggest weakness in this game is matchmaking and Push (hate Push so much)

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I feel the same! Happy healin! :star_struck:

those top player with top500 aim can’t play widow against pharmercy in world cup, but rather go as ashe/ cassidy. I heard these forumers chanting about the power of one-shot but disregard every other clunkiness that a widow can has to deal reliable killing blow.

Think about it.

I also hate Pharmercy lmao. My main problem is Spamzo and how he doesn’t feel aim dependent like a Widow

play pharmercy to counter him. Isn’t it beautiful that the heroes you hate happened to be a counter to each other?

Unfortunately if its not one thing that’s irritating, then its going to be something else, the list is long.

I’m still strongly recommending the Awkward coaching videos. Helps a lot.

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I’ll give them a look. Thanks for the recommendation as well. Anything that can help with improvment and overall a better experience is welcomed

It’s not even that they’re overpowered. Just not fun to play against. Or play with for that matter.

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They don’t have good counterplay

Snipers, and really any 1-hit-kill attack in this game (excluding ults of course) simply don’t belong IMO.

And I don’t agree with the “at least Widow takes skill” mantra. Flicking the mouse to hit a target is just plain stupid. You can literally just wiggle your mouse fast across a target and 8 out of 10 times you’ll hit. Not to mention client-side processing means the majority of times you’re killed while standing behind cover.

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I think you get killed behind a cover because the way fps games works with latency - the attacker have the advantage because he can start shooting before he appears on your screen.