Hello. This is a genuine question, not for salt. Do people who play for 2k+hours and are in bronze-diamond choose to be in the league? I kinda get frustrated at people who play reaper for 1k hours and still doesn’t know anything about positioning and whatnot. Are they secretly high tier just trying to feed some games to stay in mid leagues?
No playtime and skill do not directly correlate
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They play to have fun and don’t pay attention to strats or game theory for the most part. Or they’re foolish and toxic. Or they’ve got a crappy PC and/or Internet. Or they’re a little kid or have issues that makes gaming at a “high” level challenging. Throwers are kind of the least of the problem.
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Hey Love,
The short answer is no, they are there because they are at that skill level.
Improving on positioning, mechanical skills, and team coordination necessitates that the player is actively trying to learn what he does wrong in order to correct it.
I would argue that a lot of players who are stuck in rank do not do this self analysis, and end up staying around the same skill level despite the time invested into the game.
Also there is no right or wrong way to play a video game, which means some players just enjoy the thrill of playing the game in their own play style regardless of victory or defeat.
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Pick one.
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This is not true, time directly correlate into skill, but everyone just have limits, based on other factors too. Not just time invested.
People with so many hours on certain hero usualy have consistent performance and are good on that hero in rank they are in.
Nope.
Im just old & my reactions arent good.
My pc is 3+ years old & m6 monitor is caped at 100hz
Maybe ill improve with new rig, maybe i wont.
The 2 times i crept into plat it was a miserable experience.
Id rather play in low gold where people are a lot nicer & my que times are fast regardless of role.
17 seasons ive bounced between 1485 & 2548.
Thats my skill level.
Ppl say below diamond doesn’t require skill but i guess im just a garbage gold but im happy where i am.
As the game gets older i dont improve faster than everone else so while i may improve slowly, so does everyone around me.
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Time does not directly correlate into skill. You can play more and become worse by picking up bad habits. Time is a bad scale for skill. Only thing what time allows is for the skill level to grow or lower. If time does not pass, skill doesent change. If time passes, but you dont play its highly likely your skills will lower at least slightly, while others who play while time passes they have the chance to improve, so translated to SR your SR will slowly lower if you dont play. But by playing it is not certain you will improve.
I know people who repeat the same mistakes. Always. Every time. I tell them its a mistake, but they say “it works for me”. Yet they are in bronze after 2000h+. Well I guess it “works” in bronze, but the thing is, they will be in bronze for ever because they keep repeating the same mistakes.
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It’s not about limits its more about using your time wisely and not simply grinding. If you simply play and learn nothing from it you won’t improve or at the very least you’d improve very slowly.
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I have a gold border, and I personally don’t want to overthink when I’m playing. That doesn’t mean I do absolutely terrible decisions like rush in without grouping, but I just don’t want to micromanage ever single decision and have to juggle all of these different factors in order to win. Plus, I use an Xbox controller on PC, so I’m content with knowing I’ll probably be hanging in Gold/Plat for the rest of my comp career in Overwatch.
They’re just not playing to improve. I’ve no idea why would someone play comp if they didn’t want to become better at the game tho.
it’s totally possible to play a lot of a game and never get much better at it.
I have a friend who was in masters in season 5 or 6 or something, and easily made diamond in other seasons, I guess he would have been around level 200/300 at that time.
I’ve been playing since around that time and now I have way more hours played on the game, around level 900 now, but I’ve never reached that rank.
Can everyone be the top 15% regardless of actual skill / potential?
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If everyone was in top 15% it wouldnt be top 15% but top 100%. Right?
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Exactly, but someone makes this same stupid thread every few weeks.
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True. Expect maybe like every few days.
(or well not exactly this same, but things involved around it)
Yeah it’s so funny that people don’t understand simple stuff like this.
Someone always HAS to be bronze, silver, gold etc, it’s literally how the matchmaking in the game is built.
If everyone below master would suddenly quit playing the game today, do people in master think they would still stay in master?
Ofc not, the ones in low master would drop to bronze, mid master would be silver and gold etc.
The only thing that keeps you in your rank is people below you. If there is no one below you (both SR wise and skill wise), you will drop to the lowest rank possible.
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Not necessarily.
Putting aside my crap reflexes, from being old, and crap aim (which is now ingrained as bad habits) as they’re hard limits to my progression…
Time spent doesn’t equal skill. I spent 20 odd years on martial arts.
Tried a white collar boxing match. Ten week training course. Lost 40 lb in that time and got super fit.
Was a far better fighter than I’d ever been previously.
Did a second bout two years later.
I’d been shown the “drop step” punch and my punch power increased circa 50% after two minutes of learning that.
So second fight I decked my opponent three times.
It’s the the quality and WHAT you are practicing. Went through the same thing. Did a traditional martial art, still enjoyed it, but a lot of it wasn’t practical self defense. How can it be when there are rules a person actually trying to harm you certainly won’t be following? Not bashing traditional arts, they have value, but take them for what they are.
This is why in Overwatch I am mindful of how I am spending my time. QP just to play and decompress. Deathmatch or Workshop modes to work on raw mechanics/aim. Competitive to actually become more competent at winning Overwatch matches.
My playtime is limited both because I work, have other responsibilities (and games I want to play). I will never be a grandmaster player, because I lack the desire to put 20+ hours a week into one/game hobby.
But I can always improve, just at a slower rate.
Not improving is fine as well. It is a videogame afterall.
When people don’t put in the work, and complain they “can’t climb” though…that’s a bit cuckoo.
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The game is almost 4 years old. Masters and Gm in season 1,2 and 3 is like plat and diamond nowadays. The entire playerbase skill evolves over time…
And what exactly do you know about positioning that that Reaper doesn’t?
He is playing a Reaper, not Widowmaker or Ana, the only position that gives him any value is in front of an enemies face. Is he shotting at enemies from 15 miles away? Of all the heroes you picked the one that suffers the least from bad positioning.
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