Yeah I know they lost, but my point was that they shouldn’t have. It’s like The Flash getting beat by Batman. I’m sure Batman could find a way to win, but only if the Flash chooses not to kill him in an instant. It’s no different here. The only logical explanation is that they were trying to take him alive, because otherwise they should’ve killed him in less than a second. Even with his intellect, he shouldn’t even have had a chance to think up a counter attack or time the removal of Tracer’s CA.
Sigma might be able to beat them with his ability to manipulate gravity, but it depends on how far his power extends outside of game mechanics.
I don’t know, I’m not sure that’s the case. I don’t think Tracer can really control how much damage her bullets deal, and he seemed impervious to them, which indicates he has some sort of damage immunity (he probably underwent some procedures at the hands of Moira, just like Reaper did. He believes in strength above all else, so there’s no reason why he wouldn’t take the chance to have his abilities enhanced). And if his body is impervious to bullets, why wouldn’t his head be?
Genji also doesn’t really seem to be holding back. If you watch the fight closely, you can see that he actually pulls out his sword when they’re in melee range, but Doomfist blocks it effortlessly. You can say he’s holding back, but we don’t really have any reason to believe that’s the case. Genji is an assassin, first and foremost, after all.
Damage immunity doesn’t seem to be the only superhuman ability Doomfist has, either. In his origin story we can see him punching a hole into a concrete wall, with his bare fists, which isn’t a feat any human is capable of, despite what some “martial artists” would have you believe.
Luckily, Jeff has confirmed there’s lore on Zenyatta coming either “very soon” or “Blizzard soon”, I’m not entirely sure which of the terms he used regarding Zenyatta’s lore in his interview with Seagull, I know he used both terms in regards to different topics he was asked about.
I don’t envy you that. I live in the Mediterranean region, which has far more bearable temperatures most of the year, and I still suffer from June to early October.
I’d love to visit Vietnam one day though, in one of the colder months of the year. ^^
Doomfist power is based off a rumor to quote “they say he could” not “He could” its a small difference but major they say implies its a rumor with no confirmation behind it, Winston being able to beat him with the doomfist on means he’s at least as strong.
So basically Winston ≥ Doomfist > Genji and Tracer
Im curious as to why he’s here, every time we’ve seen him on a mission he’s blundered it, capture antonio alive? Oopsee I killed him, Hold off Winston along with your squad of troops long enough for the hack to finish? You’re squad got rekt and than you proceeded to get beat by quite easily meanwhile dealing no major or even visible damage to winston and the hack failed to complete, kill Katya Volskaya? Eh… I’ll give him this one since he seems to be more concerned about Dooms interests and he wants volskaya alive, he also fails to kill Soldier or Ana but unlike the Winston encounter managed to deal a good amount of damage against soldier
Yeah gravity powers definitely would get S tier I support it
We have no lore feats on Orisa, the closest we have is that she’s an upgraded OR-15 unit… But those got completely rekt not only by doomfist like not even a challenge, but the much deadlier, stronger OR-14 units got rekt by a wounded Balderich who admittedly got wounded by an OR-14 but that was because he rushed into battle trying to save a comrade, and speaking of that comrade he had all the tools he needed to win, his problem was that he approached the OR-14 the same way he approached the bastions, as something he can just back rocket through, he was caught off guard, not weaker than them, this is further reenforced by the fact you cant tell me those were the first and last instances of OR-14s he faced, they were elite soldiers unlike the mindless droves of Bastions you can bet they were thrown out at the strike team of 6 time and time again, additionally him Mercy Tracer and Torbjorn encountered multiple of these units during the Uprising in Kings Row
Overall Orisa just doesnt have enough feats or even lore to give her a ranking, most feats and lore we’ve seen about her has been about her sister models the OR-15s and 14s
There’s no doubt she’s most likely the best in her squad but I dont think she’s better than characters in combat situations than characters like McCree Sombra and Soldier who are all much more seasoned fighters with much more experience, McCree especially, dont let the cinematic make it seem like Ashe and the deadlock gang were weak, that was a military train not some random train that was a heavily guarded military train and not even the first thing they robbed from the military being able to get multiple military grade explosives just judging by the size of those shells in their base, McCree is just that good and realistically barely beat Ashe you heard me right barely, if that bunch of grenades wasnt there B.O.B. and Ashe would have won that encounter, I believe she should be moved to B.
Yeah I can buy them being A tier they definitely have the skills to be that high
In terms of power? I’d put Moira in B maybe C in terms of what they can do she is definitely an A tier maybe S, but this is about pure power
Widowmaker should definitely be with Ana wherever she sits I believe they should both be A tier
While Ana may have lost their duel keep in mind why she lost, it wasnt because Widowmaker was a better Sniper it was because Ana saw Amélie Lacroix the wife of a good but dead friend and hesitated, while Widowmaker was emotionaless and brainwashed she wouldnt hesitate like Ana wouldnt again
Tracer is a situational one, its been shown multiple times in the lore her powers are limited not only through damaging her Chronal Accelerator, but just natural limitations being limited blinks where she has to retreat. But I agree with being listed as an A tier as when she does have her powers she definitely belongs there
I cant agree with this but I cant disagree with it either, we have plenty of feats from her just none in comparison to other characters outside of Sombra so we cant really rank her high or low
He should be A tier he’s a seasoned veteran to combat of multiple forms not just against people but in terms of operations he knows how to do it stealth like or loud and proud about it
I’d say he has the potential to be higher, we just don’t know what it is yet, we know he’s better than the Bastion units we’ve seen so far but its the same with Orisa, we dont have enough feats from him to give him a true placement we can only compare him to his brother units who he might be just as good as or he might be stronger than everyone else now with his upgrades
She’s someone we dont know much about the only one we can truly compare her to is Zarya, we dont have enough interaction with other people, and the fight with Zarya was only lost because Lynx called out her teleportation, additionally the fight was too short to draw any conclusions, we know her hack capabilities are great but thats it
Not enough feats but the technology she controls is in theory fearsome but its limitations are unknown
I believe this placement suits him
I believe he should be placed at A tier
I like this placement I feel it fits
I believe he might possibly needs to be A tier but B tier could fit him as well we know he’s an experienced fighter but we dont have enough feats from him
I explained in Widowmaker
He’s a seasoned fighter, able to take on an entire force of armed guards with a small squad of 3 one of them seeming like a person who usually isnt a combat situation but not unaccustomed to it. He should be B tier from what we’ve seen
Lore feats not enough of em so I guess keep him here
He should definitely be at least A tier, he’s a super soldier with a ton of combat experience
Both of these fit D tier they might even should be F tier as while Mercy is most definitely very accustomed to combat situations we have no lore suggesting she actually fights herself but she has experience in combat situations, we learned in Storm Rising that outside of perhaps Sojourn she was the highest ranking of the officers there showing she has the most feats out of all of them at least feats that would earn her a higher rank.
Mei was just an ecopoint climatologist, thats all she was. No combat experience at all.
Both in terms of power could even be ranked F maybe Mercy could keep D if its shown she will also use violence if needed
B tier, she’s retrieved training from Reinhardt made highly advanced combat armor for herself, and like her father is a genius engineer
I’d put her at C or B we have seen combat feats from her but we dont know her power compared to other characters
Also, why is Hanzo so powerful? Isn’t he just some mob boss? Genji is a cyborg, that makes sense, but also in lore that means Sombra would just hack him. In fact, since she has nanobots at her command she’s immediately much more powerful than given credit.
everything done UNDERCOVER. As for Lucio’s father, they “legaly” stole the technology, but the skates are not part of Lucio’s father tech, just the sound gun.
Reinhardt would easily be A Tier. He was an excellent soldier even before he was introduced to the crusader armour, which he now has decades of experience with. The soldiers who are chosen to use the crusader armour also have to be absolute physical monsters, this trait is only further enhanced by the crusader armour.
The armour is an exosuit that grants superhuman strength on top of the user’s already formidable strength, while also granting massive resistance to most forms of damage with the exception of highly-pericing attacks, (think of the 0R-14’s blade from the honor and glory short) this is all without mentioning the shield and factoring in the induvidual skill of the user.
If we were talking lorewise, reinhardt and doomfist would be an even match for eachother if you were to take the crusader armour and the doomfist itself+ knuckle guns out of the equation.
If you were to factor in the crusader armour and the doomfist + knuckle guns the fight would again seem even, but I feel as if reinhardt would be able to take multiple hits from the doomfist and maybe even overpower it, while a single hit from the rocket hammer would almost surely incapacitate doomfist.
i guess