Tier list based on power levels in lore

Honestly… Moira and Genji should be bumped down and symmetra should be bumped up.

I honestly think only sigma would be in s tier.

Doom should be lower and at least on par with orisa. She was specifically built to protect numbani from him if he ever attacked again.

Why is Moira A tier? She doesn’t have any high level feats.

since when was Vishkar honest?

He can level a skyscraper. One of, if not the strongest talon member, bodied tracer, genji by himself, and winston (outside of primal)

We never seen her in action though, we don’t know for sure how effective she is against doomfist

She literally sucks life out of people and turned reaper into what he is now. Plus we don’t even know what other things she’s done

What if Zenyatta has the “talk no jutsu”, making him instantly SS-tier hero? :thinking:

Since they’ve alluded that all Zenyatta does is talk wise words instead of his gameplay orb mechanics.

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Have we seen her drain people in the lore? Plus the whole reaper thing was no doubt an extensive laboratory procedure, not an instant transformation.

They still need to put up their public image, duh. Sure their have a higher up with Talon, but the public can’t know.

Retribution, If that counts i guess, I assume so since most abilities heroes have are the same in lore

Orisa is stronger than a Bastion unit, and was made specifically to combat Doomfist.

The OR15 units were the biggest threats in the King’s Row archives mission. A mission that mission includes Bastion units. Orisa is a greatly upgraded version of an upgraded version of an OR15.

Reaper is too high. If we’re being logical, Genji and Tracer should be above everyone else.

I think Zarya and D.va both need to be tier A. Tanks in general are pretty powerful in lore, and I think it’s hard to make an argument that McCree, basically a skilled cowboy with no real powers besides good aim and a robotic left hand is more powerful lore-wise than a hero who can literally create tiny black holes, or D.va’s mech, which has incredible destructive potential in her animated short.

Hammond probably also belongs higher, I’d put him into tier B at least.

How is reaper too high? He practically can’t die, can turn into smoke and appear out of nowhere, and on the volkskya mission he killed dozens of guards and a giant robot mech by himself

Plus when him and widow tried to steal the gauntlet and he death blossomed it looks like he can hold it for way longer than he does in game

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i’m p sure the people already know of Vishkars weapons, being oppressed by Vishkar and all that.

And Vishkar would definitely need security, just in case someone would try to start an uprising.

He would still lose to Genji and Tracer. Every character should lose to them. We see them blitz the absolute hell out of Doomfist.

I can only assume they lost because they were actively trying not to kill him. Otherwise, Genji should’ve chopped Doomfist in half before he could even comprehend what was happening. Tracer could’ve just shot him in the head.

Doomfist tanked everything the duo did, including pulse pistol shots and shurikens and then smashed both critically down in one hit and remember, he can actually level skyscrapers with that gauntlet and it took genetically engineered gorilla in rage mode to match him.

If I were to take a crack at this… I’d personally put Brigitte and Lucio into D-tier.

Brigitte has a rocket powered flail, which is fine and all but not really a weapon you’d realistically want to use when everyone else has guns and half the hero cast have unique high-tech or downright magic powers.

Meanwhile Lucio is a DJ, who has some sound based weaponry and moves around on skates. Sounds more annoying than really powerful, what’s he even doing in Overwatch? :smiley: Why would you shoot soundwaves when you can just use a regular gun which has better penetration and bullets move at supersonic speeds anyways? Sound also has a super fast falloff, volume drops really quickly with every meter a soundwave travels. Just think about how much louder a person yelling into your ear is compared to when he’s 10m away from you.

Pharah and Zenyatta probably belong in tier A and S respectively, I don’t think either of them can be below B at the least.

Pharah has a jetpack and a rocket launcher, nothing too out of this world, but you can’t argue with the destructive power of a bazooka with a six shot clip and super fast reload, and any kind of soldier with a mastery of a jetpack sounds incredible. She was also a high ranked leader of Egypt’s defensive forces if I recall correctly, which speaks highly of her tactical skills too.

Zenyatta’s lore is a bit weird, but he has the power to literally inspire his allies to an extent that physically heals them, and physically damage enemies with his words. Not mentally, phsically. That sounds like an insane power level, and if he can do that much, who knows what other physical effects his words can cause lore-wise that aren’t included in the game. He also seems to have some form of telekinesis (at least I assume that’s how he flies, since there doesn’t seem to be any kind of propulsion and he floats completely effortlessly), which obviously has massive implications too.

Let me know what you think. :smiley:

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Doomfist did do that, but the problem is, if Genji or Tracer actually wanted Doomfist dead, they could’ve killed him in an instant with how fast they are. Tracer could stick him with a pulse bomb and Genji could use dragonblade.

It’s no different against any other character. If Genji or Tracer were out for blood, the rest of the cast wouldn’t even get a chance to think about doing anything before being cut down.

… they’re literally responsible for burning down the favela in the Sym comic so they could build their fancy new structure in it’s place, and Lucio stole his fancy skates and gun from them. They’re not just an architectural company even if that’s their front.

The clip you show (Doomfist’s Origin Story) literally ends with him demolishing both Tracer and Genji. :smiley: He sends Genji flying into a car where he ends up lying, and tears off Tracer’s Temporal Thingamajig before slamming her into the ground. He also seems completely immune to her bullets, and seems to have a genius level IQ that lets him analyze both their actions and figure out their weaknesses and predict their movements in the span of a few moments.

I think he’s definitely a massive step above them, but you could make the argument that they still belong in the same tier as he does, since there’s obviously a difference even between heroes in the same.

Honestly though, I think A-tier is right for them. You also have to consider the level of actual destructive power when considering hero tiers. Genji and Tracer are incredible assassins or infiltrators, but their actual destructive power isn’t really on the level of some of the heroes in the game. Can you really include them in the same tier as a character like Sigma?

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