I just quit a QP game because of sombra. I normally play comp where she is banned in every game, but if I don’t want to risk wrecking ball getting banned I play qp. I just spent a whole year learning the game and now I can play Ball at a decent level. All of that time spent for a Sombra player to just click a button to hack me and get me killed. How is that fair?
I have three suggestions for these devs. Either,
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Completely remove sombra (which will not happen).
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Completely change sombra’s identity (not likely)
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Remove either invisibility or hack. She CANNOT have both. If I can see her then I can be more careful, if I can’t see her she doesn’t get to just hide behind her team waiting for me to dive, that is trash gameplay and NEEDS to stop now.
Sounds like you need to improve more on ball. He can totally be played against sombra, but of course it’s harder. Also in higher ranks sombra is banned less and less, so if you climb higher, you will need to be able to play into her or swap.
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Wrecking Ball doesn’t do any of what you said. It seems like you don’t know how to play into counterplay yet. This is a normal part of learning your hero. You should be stoppable.
I’m an adult with a job and life. I don’t expect to reach not even masters. That is not my goal. For what? My peak is high plat, low diamond and I’m fine with that. Maybe I do need more time on ball, but regardless, the fact that sombra gets banned at a very high rate tells you she is the problem, not me. My suggestions still stand.
No. Her having a high ban rate doesn’t say anything about your skill (or lack thereof). She has a very brief interrupt. If you’re not able to play around that then you’re not that great at Ball when he has real counterplay present.
She also has one of lowest win rates in the game. Losing to her consistently is a you problem.
Has anyone ever heard of Diminishing Returns?
Y’all are not reading my post. My issue with her is not in comp because she’s either banned or I get better players. My problem is in QP, where the enemy team switches to her in every game once they see I’m a problem. Except, in QP I don’t have good teammates, in QP I usually get those Widows that refuse to swap even though she is getting dived on by a doom and sombra. If I get those type of bad players, it’s fine with me since I can still have my fun with wrecking ball. But no, no FUN in QP, the enemy team just switches to Sombra and camps out with their team all huddled together while my teammates are afk, missing every snipe shot, or getting smashed by a doom.
You shouldn’t need your teammates to bail you out of a hack.
Wrecking Ball has a 53% winrate in Quickplay, the third highest of all tanks. You think those other Balls don’t get Sombra swaps or bad team mates too? Sombra, on the other hand, has the fifth lowest winrate of all the DPS and it is below 50% which means she’s not even breaking even. She has a 48% winrate in QP.
Which means Sombra swaps typically do not work out for the Sombra. And that’s with all the cracked Sombra players out there who are very good but not playing comp due to the bans, which actually pushes her winrate up! She’s even worse in the hands of someone who barely touches her and only swapped to counter your Wrecking Ball.
You’re blaming Sombra instead of looking for advice from Ball mains. That’s why you’re not good against her.
She’s banned because people find her annoying to play against not because they lose against her. She’s a throw pick and in no way gets free value. If you regular lose to Sombra, then you need to change how you play the game
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You’re assuming I haven’t seen much better ball mains. I have seen plenty of Yeatle’s videos and streams. Bu he’s on PC, I’m on console. He’s a top player, I am not or looking to be. Buddy, let me tell you upfront that I have taken 2 years of Phd level statistics. I already see an erroneous assumption you have made with winrate %. Although she has a 48% winrate in QP, higher than ball, what is the distribution percentage of that 48% against? It could be that 98% of that 48% winrate is against ball players. Similarly, Ball’s winrate in QP could have a low win percentage when the enemy team has a decent to very good sombra player. Where are the detailed percentages?
Look at the end of the day, my hate for sombra came way before I started playing Ball. And I don’t foresee that changing until the devs do something about. If they don’t then I will just eventually stop playing the game as much as I used to.
Sombra’s winrate is not higher than Balls. Not providing statistics that they don’t provide is not a mistake on my part, either.
The devs have long spoken about the fact that Sombra is actually a weak hero and every stat that we have backs that up.
Wrecking Ball has a 53% winrate, Sombra has a 48% winrate. Ball’s is higher, not Sombra. He is a strong hero. You made the claim that every time you do good on Ball, Sombra is picked. If we assume your experience is typical of Ball players…then there is no other conclusion than she doesn’t work out.
Or maybe it’s just you.
Regardless, Sombra is weak.
seems you have only learned how to play ball into teams that just let you do your thing.
Basically on easy mode.
I wouldn’t be proud of that. 
like I can play widow if theres no dive present. wow very hard standing there spamming shots without a worry.
yes my buddy who helps me with ball craps on sombra. He begs for her to not be banned as its a free W.
theres much worse heroes for ball
We don’t take suggestions from Ball players on one of his softer counters.
You get what you get until your hero gets tuned.
We’re not removing one of your counters. Sorry. You need more, if anything, and they should be harder. Unlike Sombra, your hero is annoying and he’s strong.
Sombra is already being reworked and they’re working on it. But they may not gut her like you want her to be. Just be prepared to bite down on a wooden spoon or something idk
I certainly hope you’re playing 6v6. Sombra is not a problem for Ball in 5v5 if you have any idea how to play him.
Rework her into a support.
They had a working template with her Mirrorwatch version and from what I could tell, was actually very well received? I personally loved it.
Blizzard need to stop keeping her in the DPS role as the perception is what is forcing her to be reworked rather than stats. She is statistically weak.
I totally get what you are saying. She is a frustrating hero that is slept on just because these people write her off based on her winrate and then pretend other heroes with low winrates are broken or that poor little dumplings with high winrates are actually bad. It’s nonsensical.
The only real solution is to avoid QP like the plague. Who cares if Ball gets banned? You wouldn’t want to play him with Sombra around anyways. I know I wouldn’t. I only played Ball to a diamond level myself, but the counterplay is obnoxious and not nearly as guaranteed as people citing top players with top player teammates would imply. And I smoke her on Doomfist. That’s another character she counters, but then people pretend she doesn’t counter just because. Sombra has hacked their minds, homie.
thanks tank passives.
for ruining role q entirely. 
if only 6v6 had some basic Structure.
another question is WHEN is the rework gonna happen.? who knows about that, maybe even not in the next season either heh
If you know they have a Sombra you shouldn’t be using slam too much. It’s just an easy hack for her. Also you have the new perk that can block hack. Ball can very much be played into Sombra. You just have to think a bit more.
This is a ball problem not a sombra one, they should have changed his kit for stuns to not be guaranteed 300-500 damage years ago
Well, you could just swap.
Sombra is the counterpick to Ball.