Thoughts on Tracer?

I personally find her slightly overturned. She’s basically the best Flanker in the game, with a super difficult to hit hitbox, fast and unpredictable.

With crazy damage. I don’t think that she is that overturned, but still is too strong.

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She’s fine rn, or that’s my opinion at least.

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I enjoy playing her and into her so I think she’s fine atm.

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She’s a weird one.
On one hand, she’s doing fine really. Only good in higher ranks, not really an outlier either.

On the other hand, you could argue she’s doing too good for a meta she’s not supposed to be good in.

But all in all, not that much of a problem.

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maybe 1 blink instead of 3 blinks and maybe is good, with 3 blinks she can go very easily back to her team but with 1 she can still be killed, my opinion :stuck_out_tongue:

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She’s the real problem in terms of balance, and is why those issues continue to this day.

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She doesn’t get enough love on 34

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Could use more of a revert to her falloff. But that’s pretty much it.

Anyone suggesting buffs to her is laughable and suggesting harsher nerfs is too much.

She’s been a real thorn in balancing this games side for ages. Both directly and indirectly.

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Leave. :grinning: :sob:

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It’s okay! I have a liscense to be horny on main

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I hate her. Annoying pest

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Compared to other characters that aren’t Overwatch, I think she has enough

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That’s not what I meant.

:+1:

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Yes Tracer is one of the best flankers, but that isnt hard with that competition

Tracer is in my opinion hard to judge, if you play her perfectly she is broken and her pulse has not much counterplay if you know how to aim it

On the other hand is Tracer one of the hardest Hereos in the game and maxing her skill ceilling is beyond whats humanly possible

Tracer is because of that in my opinion a perfectly designed Hero: You can win every matchup, but only if you have the skill for that and if you make a mistake you die very quickly. She is strong, but not very forgiving

I really feel this. I wish they had used this concept for other characters. Then top down balancing would feel much more natural.

tracer is and will always be op in theory, thankfully there’s only like ~100 people worldwide who actually know how to express her bustedness so we don’t have to worry about it in a meta which she isn’t a part of (altho as others have said she’s still one of the best dps even in this patch)

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I’d be fine with that if she wasn’t one of the few outliers.

RobotWizard made a thread about a month or 2 ago about skill ceiling, imma try to find it.

It was on why the lower skill ceiling heroes are really the hardest because it takes a ton of skill to outplay a high skill ceiling character because they lack the resources required.

You are right, there is a difference between value ceilling and skill ceilling

Lets take a look at Moira: One of the easiest Hereos in the game, but her value also isnt that high → low skill ceilling and low value ceilling

But:

This has not that much to do with difficulty, Skill ceilling and value ceilling are just 2 different things. What you doesnt get dexided on how hard something is, it gets decided on how much value you get from it

So yes: Many low skill ceilling Hereos have a low value ceilling and dont get played because of that, but this doesnt mean they get played less because they are easier

If you want to know how good something is ranked value ceilling is the only thing that matters and doesnt necessary get influenzed by the skill ceilling

So your conclusion was:

“Low skill ceilling Hereos are harder because they are easier”

while the proper conclusion is:

“Most low skill ceilling Hereos have a low value ceilling and low value ceilling hereos dont get played much”

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Tracer is a perfectly designed character… when you take nothing else into account.

Most characters a balanced by matchups and have little room for overcoming counter. The issue with tracer is often anything that counters her or gives her a hard time drastically screws over everyone else.

Tracer in a game with characters that play similar to her is very balanced but her in a game with unique characters is either the best or if she isn’t, we’re in a meta with way too much sustain , damage or crowd control.

If tracer isn’t a top 3 pick then the game has too much of something. But that’s the problem.

She should not always be a correct answer in a balanced game otherwise it makes too many characters mandatory or irrelevant.

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she is the best flanker Doom genji and reaper are just worst versions of her
this isn’t really a huge problem I would say she isn’t really broken but she is very very powerful and to make other flankers be able to compete with her is not a good thing
a good example is June Genji in 2020
he was broken but he could compete with tracer