This truth that OW2 devs don't want to address

Every month we hear about a new rework. We are going to fix the game and make it better! The ranks will be reset! We finally fixed it!
Yet every update and patch is a failure. Season 9 is a complete disaster and the worst update since the game was released.

Six is an even number, five is not. The truth is the game was never designed for 5v5. The game will always be a mess with 5v5. The best balance I’ve ever seen was 6v6, which will always remain that way.

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I mean…so was the worst.

Nothing in OW2 has been as bad as certain overpowered heroes and dumb comps. At least from what I’ve heard about them.

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Says a lot that nobody replied to this post. The shills will defend 5v5 for no reason

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Overwatch 2 takes the cake as the worst. OW1 had its months, but OW2 it’s been years.

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Moth meta was like 8 months iirc? GOATs technically existed since like moira release but people didn’t figure it out for a while and it wasn’t nerfed till role queue like a year later.

5v5 the longest metas were maybe sojurn going from s1-s3? Orissa was strong like s4-s5 or 6 as well iirc. Still that’s like 5 months max.

EDIT: if we judge single character metas there has to be stretches of OW1 where ana was meta for over 15months.

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OW2 has only been out for a single year, dude.

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GOATS was meta from roughly August 2018 to May 2019, just FYI. Moira was used in Slambulance which was a bit different than GOATS (4/2 comp), and Clockwork & a few other Orisa comps took over GOATS before RoleQ came out. GOATS showed up I want to say in June 2018ish but didn’t catch on as meta for a while

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Or you know In an ever changing live service game, design decisions that were made by devs 3 + years ago that have long left the company. May no longer be viable or possibly problematic, after new heroes are released and meta’s shift.

Keep in mind in a double barrier the likes of widow would basically never see play, post the release of sigma.

while in 5v5 long range heroes need more LOS blocks, and stricter range limits.

OW is always going going to grow, things are going to change.

All live service games are like this.

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Ow1 was also not great… BUT ow2 is just an absolute joke…

Ow 2 even make me miss the old 2cp maps with the release of the new game modes

I hated the 2cp maps haha but now I would pay money to trade them with the new game modes…

I leave the game when I get one of the new game modes… I don’t like playing them. The worst 2 must be Suravasa and new junker

I miss ow1 each day more and more

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I am sorry but nothing is worse than Soldier being the hard meta from bronze to t500.

GOATS and Double Shields were metas only present in a minuscule minority of the game. People just parade their corpses around because they want the hitscan echo chamber to remain undisturbed.

So you know nothing of what you are talking about.

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Isnt ana still meta now

Feels good to see how this forum have turned into a place of irrelevant opinions, considering skyrocketed OW popularity with recent, FUNDAMENTAL changes that this game has been in need for 8 seasons.

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Moth meta wasnt actually a thing. In fact, it was the reverse of A (singular) Meta, because Moth Mercy made just about every comp viable.

‘‘People’’ didnt figure out GOATS because GOATS was not a comp that 99% of the playerbase had a need for or was playing with/against at all.

GOATS was a GM/OWL exclusive comp. Because the reason why it was used was also a GM/OWL exclusive problem to solve, Widowmaker.

And it didnt see success below Masters because Mei and Reaper could stomp the comp instantly and easily.

The difference is that those have been widespread across all roles. Sojourn wasnt exclusive to top ranks. Sojourn was also a noobstomper hero, literally mirrored in both sides in bronze thanks to being insanely overpowered and having easy damage tools.

GOATS/DS never saw this level of absolutely disgusting all-encompassing hegemony across ranks.

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“At least from what I’ve heard about them.”

Sir… this disqulifies everything you just said.

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It doesn’t. Because I have the opinions of hundreds of people that just so happen to agree on this.

What in OW2 is worse than double shield or Brig?

It’s been out 2 years! Not 1.

Given that every single patch in 5v5 has been (somehow, idk how tbh) worse balanced than anything we ever got for the entirety of OW’s lifespan, this simply isn’t true.

Yeah, you didn’t actually experience the game during that period so your opinion on whether it was ever worse than what we have now doesn’t mean anything lol

Nah, it was in high diamond/master, too. (for the same reason, of course) Anywhere beneath that and it literally never worked out for the team trying to use the comp since it required actual brainpower to pull off.

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I mean

Isn’t an argument even worth replying to, so people didn’t.

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494 days. Not even 1 1/2 years.

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I leave those two out mostly because I am tired of typing the same thing. I should make stock replies to people’s misconceptions, actually.

But yes, below mid-diamond GOATS was just meaningless, and it was destroyed by Mei and Reaper.

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