My one worry about this going through is that it takes another hero that keeps ball in check off the board. We’ll be seeing a lot more of him once this goes live.
Orisa and Sigma can’t be played without another barrier tank.
Rein’s shield is Double Barrier alone due to its potency. He also has a Zarya shield with him. That’s two barriers.
You can go back all the way to release, you won’t find many meta that had less than two barriers.
In fact, it only happened once: TriDPS Dive, 2017.
That’s silly. Reinahrdt was trash during Double Barrier due to the GOATS nerfs which made him need two other tanks to be played.
He’s viable right now. He’s probably the only actually good tank. Sigma and Orisa are overnerfed, Roadhog and Winston are mostly powercrept, Hammond is meh and lacks synergies in 2-2-2, D.Va is bad as a tank.
There’s no risk of a “tank powercreep.” Tanks are the weakest they’ve ever been. Healing is currently the same as release, and damage is the highest it’s ever been.
So he’s back at being a ball to be kicked around.
Because they’re not allowed to. They get nerfed whenever they do.
The DPS that got buffed are either overshadowed by powercrept DPS, or countered by them.
They don’t need buffs, they need other DPS nerfed.
The last time it happened was during TriTank. Ana dictated that meta.
Then ? Dive was Winston and Tracer’s fault.
Double Sniper was, well, Double Sniper.
Grav/Dragon was Hanzo’s fault.
GOATS was burst heroes’ fault (Widow, Hanzo, Doomfist).
Double Barrier was still burst heroes’ fault.
Clockwork was still burst heroes’ fault.
The current meta is all that’s left to keep Widow in check. The only good news is Mei’s right clock buff makes her better at contesting Widow. But that comes at a cost of potentially replacing her.
This isn’t an “extravagant” patch. The balance changes will go Live as they ususally do.
As much as I want to continue discussing with you, despite the fact that we both know we have different view and opinions about the current state of the game, do I not want to continue derailing this thread.
This thread is about the Mei change and that’s it.
It’s not about the previous metas and other heroes.
But I do want to address this:
It is true that most changes tends to go through, but it has happened beforr that changes were toned down (Doomfist and Orisa nerfs) or not gone through at all(McCree with 250HP and 1/3/2 changes).
It’s very likely that the Mei changes will go through, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were last second changes to her and other heroes.
and the Pharah change proves that they still can’t.
Because the revert / buffs or whatever you want to call it. Will not fix her problem and will help very little, if at all.
Now they just need to listen to your role queueing suggestions…
For real? It still pierces. But I know Jeff won’t remove that because it would mean admitting adding it was a mistake. She still needa healthbar on her cryofreeze and Snowball during ult. It goes against every instinct that you can’t break her out as she’s contesting the point for free. And the ult is just get-off-point-or-die button.
Good. Their character was stupidly deleting every tank in the game.
So you are NOT happy about less freezy gun firing?
She still has ice wall and massive slow that becomes a freeze on her weapon and ult so no, that’s nowhere close to right
Sir this is a Wendy’s.
I think the most player would like to see her vanish from the game just because she has a toxic playstyle. I would not mind to never see her again. Its hard but just… how she is…
No, I’m not happy.
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The issue is that yeah, it looks like there are 6 total freezing chances on paper with the nerfed ammo - but that’s not the reality.
I agree.
That is the only way that this dumpster-fire change is acceptable.
I get that, and I too think similar of certain heroes in this game.
They just need to make it so we can break iceblock, reduce the healing, and we’re good.
Yeah, if we don’t care about hero balancing anymore and want to gut Mei.
While we at it, how about nerfing Reinhardt’s barrier to 150HP and give him a -50% steadfast?
Dude the only reason people play her is because of wall, multi freeze, and the get out of jail free card. This with a lucio is devastating if you don’t mirror. Also if they don’t have a d.va it’s a free fight with blizzard.
Her wall is still the main reason to pick her, and that hasn’t been changed in any way.
As someone who is much better at Mei than other DPS (if it wasn’t for her I’d probably drop out of GM on DPS), I still think that this is worth it. That’s because I play other heroes and hate her enough on them that my net fun will increase lol.
She’s a dps, why does she need an immortal button that heals her to max health that you can’t counter.