This game would be 10x better if

…they just removed Sombra and Widow. Both for the sake of teammates and for dandelion mannerisms each of these exude with no shame.

Seriously the only people who would be upset are the widow and sombra mains

I think we can afford to cut our losses for the better of the community

*prerends to play sombra,

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id play sombra myslef but my aim isn’t good enough

id play widow myself but hard to snipe bubbled tanks hoppin on you cheeks

Just donate them to fortnite. They will not be missed.

edit: they literally account for 80% of my losses. Not bcv they on the enemy team, bc they autolock on my team, leave voice chat, (you know the type) etc. Dies 5 times in first 3 min and wonders what isn’t working.

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Perhaps. That being said, they could always try reworking them to be less frustrating instead. It’s not a particularly viable solution because Blizzard has never made a successful rework in my opinion… But hey! Anything is possible.

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Best thing you can do is stop participating with this ridiculous “character”

I stopped trying or making effort whatsoever in Sombra games and just run down the clock. Experience has improved 10000%

Long range one shot without a chance to avoid it at the receiving end and ability lockouts in an ability based games seem to be not healthy in an hero based arena shooter.

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And I think it would be better if they remove Moira, mercy doom. Only sad people would be mercy Moira doom mains…what a logic…

I am willing to sacrifice Sombra to get rid of Widow. Your terms are acceptable.

I think Fortnite’s snipers are projectiles with bullet drop. They probably don’t want to put up with the Widow’s Kiss either.

I agree for the issue that Widow and Sombra have little to no counterplay. If one of them is good enough, you literally cannot play the game unless multiple teammates are swarming them, and that right away lets the tank roam free and you are now 3v5.

Unlike tanks however, you don’t even know Widow or Sombra is on you until it’s too late.

I kinda disagree.

The issue isn’t that it’s technically possible to deal with them.

It’s that it’s overly frustrating and limiting to deal with them. Often requiring teamwork just to interact with them at all.

Yea, that’s exactly what I mean though. When counterplay means you need another teammate to peel or dive, the rest of the team playing objectives is now 3v4.

With Sombra it’s much worse because if she is attacking supports, and they are busy healing each other, the rest of the team is 3v4 and without any heals. I’ve lost quite a few matches because Sombra keeps supports tied up in this way, even if she doesn’t score kills.

they can’t remove sombra because she was designed so sh** players have a chance against someone good.
and widow, that’s because blizztard needs to appeal to every gamer so they need a sniper, even though many heroes in the game have nothing in their kit to deal with her besides hiding or switching.
welcome to blizzard balance.

Oh good. Most people don’t go by that definition, even though that’s the correct one from a design standpoint.

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I wouldn’t mind complete overhauls but yea scared they would get it wrong at first. I mean look at how they turned sombrita into the predator.

They would probably turn widow into Freddy Krueger somehow

I can hear the nightmare on elm street theme already

Why?? Ever since season 9 Sombra does not seem to be doing well… She may be able to do some damage, but with the HP increase it takes her ALOT longer to eliminate someone.

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You want to remove 2 of the 4 dps I play so rude. I also play Mei and Tracer. That is right I play just the most annoying dps. If I play dps I am playing to ruin peoples days.

no just soldier and genji.

If sombra is your only issue, and not the ungodly amount of hackers/smurfs/xims then you’re problems are very small.

I have seen maybe a dozen hackers in my time playing since ow release. I probably have faced/played with more but just haven’t noticed. I just don’t think hacking is as rampant as people believe. Too many people blame themselves losing a duel on the other hacking. I always check and re-watch the match replay if I believe someone hacked and most of the time I am wrong. I feel too many people are just saying someone hacks and doesn’t put in the work to double check.

It does exist of course and Xims are probably very prevalent in high rank console play as it is easier to get away with.

Sorry to hear that.

Just put invis back on a timer for Sombra like she used to have, and make widow projectile, so that hitting shots takes real skill.