This game takes no skill

[FlankSinatra-2631]

@Yvaelle-1741

highest win rate DPS, at 58% across all ranks, are Symmetra and Torbjorn

Insert “always has been” meme

[Yvaelle-1741]

Sure but the same thing applies to the no skill abilities.

Highest win rate tank? Reinhardt - just afk behind your shield and press R sometimes.

Highest winrate healer? Lucio - turn on green aura and afk.

[aeligos-1349]

I haven’t heard it myself so yes, please, explain it for those of us who are naive/ignorant to this winrate concept.

[Theodore-1653]

I don’t see the top tier player in OWL (which probably require skill) use Torb and Sym all the time, why though?

[Calum-22269]

@Yvaelle-1741

Highest win rate tank? Reinhardt - just afk behind your shield and press R sometimes.

tell me you don’t understand rein without telling me you dont understand rein

[ArmsRacer-2880]

@aeligos-1349

I haven’t heard it myself so yes, please, explain it for those of us who are naive/ignorant to this winrate concept.

Well… I’d just refer you to this post which explains it very well -

@RobotWizard-116887

Win rate - How likely a hero will win in a game, subject to a large number of caveats.

• Win rate is influenced by SR, because the games player base is set out on a bell curve, low ranked players TEND to play against people higher ranked than they are on average, and the reverse is true. So, you need to compare it to the base line of that rank.
• Even within a rank, that same bias comes into play to a less of a degree.
• Hero which are swapped to, to counter, have a lower win rate, JUST because they tend to be picked when you are already losing.
• Win rate is weighted by how long the hero was played in the match. This means heroes which are played on defensive more than attack, tend to have over inflated win rates. After all, if they do well, defense lasts a long time, and has a higher weighting. If an attacking hero does well, the attack phase is MUCH shorter, so they have the reverse effect, artificially pushing their win rate down.
• Heroes which have a lot of mirroring tend to push the hero towards the middle of the rank. Since for every win there is a loss. (but middle of the RANK, rather than towards 50%, because the win is still more likely to go to the higher SR person) (see Moth Mercy for a VERY good demo of this)
• Heroes which are one tricked a lot, ALSO get pushed towards rank average, the players are typically stable in their rank, so, run the rank average. This means the win rate is MOSTLY made up of people who don’t run the hero all the time. They will be winning on one hero, and losing on another.

[Destrolock-2131]

S4 owl, I’ll be cheering for you!

[Hoffahoff-2141]

Torb and Sym. The “I can’t aim” duo

[LuckyDucky12-11252]

@Yvaelle-1741

Highest win rate tank? Reinhardt - just afk behind your shield and press R sometimes.

Do you really do this as Rein? What do you do after your shield’s broken in 0.5 seconds? Die?

[YouNeedHeals-2384]

@Yvaelle-1741

This game used to take skill, but now the highest win rate DPS, at 58% across all ranks, are Symmetra and Torbjorn, the two auto-turret DPS who take zero skill. They should have the lowest win rate.

I lost brain power reading this. Do you have any idea how winrate works?

[YouNeedHeals-2384]

@LuckyDucky12-11252

Die?

What do you expect? Obviously they die.

[DPSPunisher-2603]

@Yvaelle-1741

This game used to take skill, but now the highest win rate DPS, at 58% across all ranks, are Symmetra and Torbjorn, the two auto-turret DPS who take zero skill. They should have the lowest win rate.

your game knowledge is …

[KillerQueen-21171]

You can play guns duelz if you wana see skill

[Tsunder-11669]

Lol

[Warlock-23211]

Symmetra is harder than your favorite hitscan hero. Please cope

[Yannik-21167]

Play Sym, habe a winrate over 60% then u can complain😉

[PlumpyVegan-1865]

😠😡😠 Skill! 😤😤😤

Only head clicking equals skill.

If you’re a master head clicker, you’re a true alpha gamer.

Sym and Torb players don’t deserve respect. Only betas and weaklings play them.

So RISE UP ALPHA GAMERS and take back what’s ours!!! Click those heads and show everyone who’s boss.

[Chaos-26945]

@Yvaelle-1741

the highest win rate DPS, at 58% across all ranks, are Symmetra and Torbjorn, the two auto-turret DPS who take zero skill. They should have the lowest win rate.

You failed your Math class.
– hero pick-rate win-rate
Torbjörn 0.93% 56.45%
Symmetra 0.71% 55.24%

They have the lowest pick-rate because they are used only on very specific maps, and never again. It’s called strategy (and also points out they are useless most of the times).

[Arcadium-11882]

If you can’t aim, you’re not going to win on either of those heroes.

Though idk Soul, maybe you and OP are playing games at a skill level where people can do stuff like that.

[RedRobbie7-1484]

Torbjorn and Symmetra are niche heroes. They excell in only a few cases, but perform poorly in most others. What a low pickrate and high winrate means is just that the hero is being picked where they’re strongest, which is not much.

If Symmetra was too string, she would have a much higher pickrate.