Mostly afftected by this is probably Sombra currently, but there might be heroes in the future which work in the same way where there is a huge discrepancy between the viability of a hero in pro play and in regular comp.
In pro play shes currently meta, however we dont see this in comp. For the vast majority of the community shes actually underwhelming.
This is the reality most people are facing.
Regardless people are asking for Sombra nerfs based on what they see in pro play and justify it with this. This hero can never be balanced. Its impossible by her nature.
She accels at perfect team coordination, but regular players dont have the time to build 6 stack teams and practice 24/7 to make the perfect engagement, nor would they be willing to even of they had the time.
Thats why i think pro play might need different balancing. Very often they play on different patches anyway, which means that it has already been the case very often. So why not release pro exclusive patches? This creates the freedom to properly balance every hero for the regular game without messing up the pros. Everyone wins.
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i do not want different balancing then the Balanced game.
if pros beed a hero nerfd have it nerfd for everyone and if people cant imbrace it then let them cry
Can we get #DeleteSombra trending?
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Nerf the pros, itâd be faster.
So its okay with you if a hero is basically dead content for the vast majority if its balanced for pros?
a hero balanced for pros is a hero that gives you a reason to learn.
a hero that is strong for us but poo at pro is just a waste of time, u wont see any improvements youll just bully everyone around you.
every hero should be like mccree.
useless in ladder OP in calvinâs hands.
Sombra isnât balanced for Pros, she just requires teamwork and cooperation.
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Then why doesnt the numbers in pro play corelate with the ladder? Because the level of teamwork and cooperation is way higher than on other heroes. Which makes her bad on ladder and great in pro play. Currently shes exclusively balanced for pro play. Maybe even too good.
If you look at comp, a buff could be justified. If you look at pros a nerf could be justified as well.
Any player, even in a rank where Sombra isnât that good statistically, can play Sombra to great success, because the best Sombras are successful. That means Sombra players in lower ranks are only held back by their own play (not a bad hero choice).
Thatâs what balance is. Not every hero needs to be picked equally in every rank. Playing as that hero well shouldnât feel like it isnât worth it, and that absolutely is not the case for Sombra.
You can climb with attack Torb if youre good enough. Doesnt mean hes particularly good at it.
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This game needs more of the characters to be less coordination dependent.
Having too much teamwork dependent characters creates metas that can only be pulled by teams with very good coordination.
No you canât. You will cap out. There arenât Torb one-tricks in Top 500 (Fuey is generally low GM). Even if you could climb as Torbjorn into Top 500 (if a projectile god tried, they probably could), you would always be subjecting yourself to a disadvantage that would evaporate if you merely swapped heroes.
Sombra is capable of preforming at the highest level. At no point do you reach the level where Sombra is an inferior hero choice because your skill would be better served on another hero 100% of the time.
Thatâs great design.
Coordination should be encouraged, not discouraged.
The game should absolutely not incentivize players to ignore the team-based aspects of the game.
You didnt watch Dafran play on his Burgerflipper account, did you?
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What was his peak SR?
Now tell me what his peak SR on his main is.
Which one is higher?
Dont remember. Currently looking at overbuff we have a Torb player MOM currently ranking at 4.2k.
That isnât Top 500.
Not to mention that sounds like a smurf. Their main acct is probably higher.
And thatâs a pretty terrible comparison considering Surefour is towards the top of the Sombra chart and heâs 4600.
âEncouragedâ is not the same as ârequiredâ.
It is just unreal to expect high coordination from random ppl in pub games and Sombra becomes useful only with that.
There should be room for some slack.
So? 4.2k is mid-high GM.
Surefour is pro, youre serving my argument.
No it isnât. 4.2k is not high GM. Itâs about mid-GM. 4.3-4.4 is mid-high GM and 4.5k is high GM.
Again, Surefour is a top Sombra on ladder and heâs 4.6k.
Fitzy has also hit Top 10, and heâs 4439 right now. That is significantly higher than 4.2k.