complain more plz lol show games off aimbotters or st fu bro
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youre an idiot. prove me wrong or st fu, bro
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agree. lots of published evidence of cheaters/cheats. even on forums ppl show codes. i create my own export of replays and timestamps. give them a proper review and if very carefully conclude sus then flag for further review.
it could very well be 1/5 lobbies with cheaters.
but it could also be 1 in 5 killcams just looks sus af because of all the DDA.
the DDA rigs the netcode, aim, hitreg, prio, etc and is a staple of crossplay lobbies and engagement centric patents.
the hidden rigging is gross, and would explain why they cant anti-cheat, matchmake, or act on some reports very well.
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I am not saying cheaters don’t exist, asteroids exist also, they don’t hit earth every 15 mins, people who say they see cheaters in every game are just convincing themselves of the fact, that’s it
I don’t even know what DDA is but if you think your bullets are being rigged you are way too far down the rabbit hole my man, play a different game lol
The aim-assist/resist, hitbox sizes, registration tolerances, etc…are dynamically scaled to smooth out the in-game experience. aka rigged. That’s how crossplay lobbies work. The tech is baked into the engine and netcode. The patents are issued and in active use. Players are reporting lots of sus aim and ‘cheating’ → I’m suggesting it could be DDA.
It stands to reason: they could be enabling this tech (DDA) in other modes, as an attempt to compensate for sparse player populations and varying skill differences that matchmaking alone can’t solve in a reasonable time frame.
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Do you play crossplay? Because that sounds like your issue, there is no evidence of anything you are saying, people reporets cheaters all the time, it’s because they suck and they are looking for excuses, or maybe it’s a smurf
Excuses, just like everyone else on here that for some reason have been stuck for 8 years when I can make a new account and climb back to my normal SR in a couple of days ><
Are we not on the same servers? Are we not subject to the same ‘manipulation’ through rigging? You guys seriously need to drop this rubbish lol
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Out of curiousity, what percentage of people do you think cheat in online video games? 1/5 games is 1 in 45 (2.22%) players, 1/10 is 1/90 (1.11%) excluding oneself. This answer is googleable, but before you do so what does your gut think? Do you think if you had 100 gamers in a room that statistically there wouldn’t be anyone that would try to get an advantage over other people?
I think that given hackers need to buy software which costs usually in the region of £50/£200, and the second they are caught they get their computer scanned (im not making this up btw, I lent my account to someone 2/3 times and I had no idea they were cheating on it, account disappeared)
There aren’t many try hard millionaire 16 year olds playing this game with limitless money, if people are seeing cheaters less than every 5 games, they are delusional, even by your own statistics
Uh, alright I think there’s a misunderstanding on your side about the state of cheats (cost/availability) and cheat detection nowadays. I’m not sure why you mentioned millionaires or 16 year olds either; there are 10’s of millions of adults with jobs that also play online games that indeed do have disposable income (which you don’t need to be a millionaire to have). Also there are cheaper ones, and free trials. As long as people aren’t using the free ones on the front page of a search engine and aren’t cranking the settings up, it’s pretty rare for cheaters to (at least in any relevant timeframe) get caught and banned. To be clear this isn’t an Overwatch problem, but a gaming problem as a whole.
I don’t think you’re considering too the fact that besides the validation people get from beating others, people also try to make money from games, whether that be from streaming, joining a university team, or trying to get noticed to go pro. Given your 16 year old reference and perception that people have to be millionaires to cheat, you might not have the life experience yet to see the lengths people will go to to get a perceived advantage over others.
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Given the average OW player is 20 years old (a simple google search will show this ;)) = and they are saving for cars/starting families/house deposits and probably have crappy jobs, I doubt they have much expendable income
Also taking into consideration cheaters are actually banned quite efficiently, as I said, I experienced it, I very much doubt these people are spending £500 a month on cheating software and IP spoofers
Are you serious? When people see streamers cheating they lose their mind, how many more silly excuses are you going to make? People don’t get ‘noticed’ for cheating they get noticed for being consistently good and they do through tryouts… Come one my man, you are grasping at so many straws its unreal
I dont know how old you are, but I have a lot of life experience lol, but go ahead, keep assuming
A google search tells me the average age of an OW2 player is 30.9 years, which tracks with Blizzard games in general since it’s an older developer that has (had?) a devoted fan base. There are likely different results that can be found around this however as different studies would use different methodologies, and I’d guess the average age of a PC gamer to be older than that of a console player.
Cheaters are not banned efficiently, they’re rarely banned. And now you’re up to $500 a month; again there are cheaper options and free trials. Keep in mind that Blizzard banned more than 1% of their active population back in February during a ban wave, and there’s been no such (large) ban wave since. This fact alone indicates that there is likely at least 1 person cheating to some degree in every 10 games. That ban wave doesn’t mean that people all of a sudden stopped cheating, it likely means that people have been cheating since and mostly getting away with it until the next ban wave.
Streamers (big and small) do cheat, it just appears that you can’t recognize it. This doesn’t mean that all do (or even most), but many streamers have in fact been caught cheating.
Professional players have been caught cheating in probably every esport around.
I was only going by your 16 year old reference and assumption that you have to be a millionaire to pay for something. People spend much more than $50, 100, 250, or even 500 on activities they enjoy. I hypothecated that you might not have much adult life experience, but it wasn’t at all an attack on your or anything, so I apologize if that offended you.
Anyways, this conversation is pretty played out I think. This is all verifiable through studies that have been done, albeit not Overwatch specific.
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I would agree with Diablo or WoW but OW doesn’t have this prestige, and my google search said 20, so, google isn’t an authority
How do you explain my second account being banned within 2/3 play sessions for cheating? Ban waves are irrlevant they are an over the top measure people get banned every day for cheating and ban waves ALWAYS ban people by mistake which proves it is an OTP measure
Again, the vast majority of streamers don’t cheat, and as I said, when they are caught cheating their fanbase revolts, this happens and is demonstrable, the most recent example I saw was in COD
I agree they do, but not when they are are young, non established adults without surplus amounts of expenditure, OW is not played in the majority by 40 year old gamers, especially now it is F2P - I can honestly say I have probably played 300/400 games without seeing anyone I would consider a cheater, people like to see cheaters to validate themselves, they DO get banned quickly, this is also provable even in streams - it is a massively overinflated issue
- Cheats are free and also very very easy to make yourself if you know any coding at all.
- Accounts are free, You can get new phone numbers for free, you can even buy a comp ready account for less than $20.
- Cheaters view getting caught as just the cost of cheating, they have multiple burner accounts ready to go, it literally doesn’t affect them.
- Unless you are outright rage hacking you probably wont get caught because most people aren’t watching the game after or don’t know what they are looking for on soft cheating./
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you can get OW2 aimbots off github for free, this game is attroshious when it comes to cheating
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This is just misleading.
It is no better or worse than any other online multiplayer shooter.
The fact is, there aren’t vast waves of people cheating, just the odd person here and there. I’ve gone months without seeing a single cheater.
People also get banned very quickly. Chazm was banned within 24 minutes (falsely) because he was levelling a new account playing soldier.
Someone else got banned because they left a peice of software called “wiggler” on (it just forces the mouse to move to make you look active at work).
I’d posit that immoral activity such as cheating likely happens at a similar frequency as other immoral behaviours that humans engage in. So saying you see a cheater once every few months to me kinda looks like you see someone speeding, or rolling a stop sign, or not using their signal light, once every few months. As an aside, 1% of the population are psychopaths; do you think that cheating in a videogame is something that even a psychopath wouldn’t engage in?
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They recently claimed they’d banned c.250,000 accounts for cheating and stacking with cheaters. (as chazm has proven a good number of them will be wrong and overturned, but we will use that number).
There are currently 23,544,632 active accounts.
So if 250,000 of current players were banned that is 1%.
So your claim of “1 in 5 games” and “1 in 45 players” doesn’t really add up…
It should be 1 in 100 games or or 1 in 900 players. Which, is probably off the real numbers.
I love percentage calculations they are so accurate.
My favourite one is leavers are not a problem because there’s a 50% chance to be on your or on the enemy team, meaning you lose and win the same amount due to leavers.
Somehow in reality I got 80-90% leavers on my team for some reason, so either the matchmaking is rigged (unlikely) or there’s a problem with the matchmaker (impossible according to Roku) for being unable to provide the 50% ratio of leavers regardless it has all previous history of players who are tend to leave games…
PS: I should have talked about leavers, I had a leaver instantly on my team…
Mathematically that isn’t correct.
They are more likely to be on the enemy, as you are the constant. it is is 55.56% chance of being on the enemy team if someone randomly leaves.
That isn’t true. Unless you are recording all of your games and can prove it.
unlikey, because that isn’t a thing.
Match maker won’t create leavers.
Leavers are server issues, user end internet or power issues, or player tilting and rage quitting. (and few other player decisions). Match maker doesn’t force someone to leave, that is impossible and illogical.
Good cheats aren’t free, and unless you are good at coding good luck making your own… Im not really disputing anything you said, but if you see cheaters every 5 games, you are imagining things, cheaters get banned