This experimental is worthless

Im all for a fun experimental from pros or content creators to kind of break the game for a tournament. What im not okay with is the fact that this has delayed a well overdue REAL balance patch for the live game. There are obvious changes that still NEED to be made for the health of the game:

Mcree is objectively overtuned. Whether you like the character or hate the character is irrelevant. He is at a ridiculous pickrate across all ranks, has no real weaknesses other than longer range hitscans, has multiple heroes that he hard counters out of playtime. Look at the top 500 dps right now and tell me that mcree is okay. He needs a nerf. He doesn’t need to be gutted, but he 100 percent needs a nerf.

Baptiste is ridiculous at high level. Yes in lower ranked games where coordination isn’t as common, he seems relatively balanced, however at high level he completely runs the game. He has the insane damage of zen, the slippery mobility of lucio, the insane aoe healing output of moira, strong single target healing on par with ana, self sustain like brig and a defensive ult like zen and lucio except it’s on a cooldown. He has all of the strength of off supports AND main supports with none of the drawbacks. The only argument before was that window was a subpar ultimate but that has been buffed into an extremely solid ult on par with nano boost in terms of offensive power. Now we have a universally powerful support with no real drawbacks or weaknesses, that outright supersedes and replaces moira and ana in the meta.

Bastion literally doesn’t fit the current game. Shields are too weak, bunker in general is gone, and bastion simply has 0 niche. Do SOMETHING with him blizzard. Take him into a more healthy direction because his current state is a complete joke.

Doomfist is still equally problematic as he was a year ago. You took his fluidity and speed away which is why doom players love the hero, and yet somehow left his crazy burst damage that make most players hate the hero. Now doomfist is relegated to boring mr. punch man and only works when the enemy team plays 0 counters to you, and yet when he works, most players still find him incredibly frustrating. The fact that there are threads every day about hating playing as doom, AND hating playing against him, should show you that the hero is in a terrible spot for everyone. Again, do SOMETHING with doomfist. It’s been over a year since he was gutted. It’s time for doomfist to be changed.

Genji wasn’t compensated enough for his changes. Either nerf the ult charge a little less, or give him 29 damage shurikens. He was nerfed heavily, but buffed slightly. He is very close to being balanced, and i like the shift away from blade bot into a well rounded hero. Finish the job blizzard!

Sombra is just in a awful state. Emp is still just broken at high level, and yet the rest of her kit is absolutely terrible in ranked. Make sombra a real dps that can get kills, and contribute without constant team support. To compenate, hack and emp should be made way less powerful, especially considering how hard they can dumpster a hero at the click of a button. Sombra is currently either a counter pick, or an emp bot. Both playstyles are boring and unhealthy for the game. Make sombra a real dps hero.

This experimental has taken the spot of the next real experimental despite being completely worthless to most players. Despite some people being happy, there are a great deal of people not happy with the state of their hero, These changes are just scratching the surface. Im incredibly disappointed that the REAL experimental is delayed when there are clearly heroes that are long overdue for changes.

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I see no note of Ball
have you tried him?
The only good thing out of the ball changes is that Dva would no longer be the worst tank
that spot would go to Ball
His E is worthless, not only do you not knock people back but you can’t even hit them with the hitbox shrink and to top it all off he has 10 less ammo…why?

Other than that I do agree with allot of this
the Genji Ult Charge Nerf that went live was a little too extreme compared to the buff he got but if you buff his damage then he will be in a good spot
Sombra can’t hack unless their afk or Bronze and I do agree with the Doom thing
I would be fine if he got buffs but he needs compensation nerfs to what people don’t like about him
Bastion is still bad I never have hated him I think he’s fun sometimes but I do agree with what you say
Bap is also true
and same with Mcree

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do you think changing doom will make doom players happy? because i assure you, we love this state of doom, not with the nerfed uppercut, but if our punch didnt do significant damage, he would be dog. and he is dog now with the uppercut nerf. do not touch doom unless its to revert uppercut.

We? I currently would much rather a fast and fluid doom over a punch bot machine. I’m a gm doomfist main, and yet i find his current style incredibly inconsistent and almost luck based at times.

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There is no delay if nothing has been given a date. PTR still exists for balance changes if they need to do something at the same time.

There clearly is…the last experimental would have come out this passed tuesday if it weren’t for this worthless tournament patch.

Brig’s change is painful, she’s already a bad pick and they give her a straight up nerf.

Then you have the likes of Hanzo who just gets a faster and stronger dragon… cause obviously Hanzo was struggling.

I wasn’t really critiquing the tournament patch because it’s not going to live. Many changes are completely worthless and don’t fix real issues with the heroes. Genji is a blade bot? Here’s a completely broken blade buff. Moira sucks? Okay no changes. The patch is clearly just a big meme. My suggestions were for a REAL experimental that should already been pushed.

That word, it doesn’t mean what you think it does.

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Explain how a character with the highest pr in pretty much every single rank and by 4% in gm is not overtuned? He is in every single game and he’s gatekeeping at least 5 heroes out of the meta completely. Why is a slow, stationary ranged hitscan a part of a rush meta? Because he is overtuned…OBJECTIVELY

Expermintals usually go live on Thursdays and so far there has been anywhere between 2-3 weeks between them, there are no rules that says that it can’t be 4 weeks.

Expermintsl also doesn’t exist just for balance changes meant for live, that’s simply a side effect of it being more efficient than PTR when it comes to tuning numbers.
You have simply set the wrong expectations, maybe a bit of entitlement.

It’s being used as intended.

That is a mighty fine subjective opinion you have there. Thanks for sharing it.

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He’s not wrong, it ain’t an opinion it’s a fact

There’s 0 way he should be the most picked DPS in this meta unless he’s overtuned

I’m sick of seeing him in every competitive and quickplay game

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lol genji need a nerf not a buff its the most complete dps and lucio have insane heal ? zen insane dmg ? lol Now I see what kind of players ruined the game

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You know that perhaps the reason Blizzard doesnt listen to our feedback is very likely because apparently people do not even know what a fact is. I wouldn’t listen to us either given the trend. How unfortunate.

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I guess you’re just gonna ignore the fact he’s in almost every single game in every mode where you can pick your hero

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Lmao yeah its just a coincidence that theres not a real experimental this week even though its been 3 weeks? No they made room for this nonsense despite there being needed changes for multiple heroes right now. The devs LITERALLY said it isn’t going live, so no it isnt ā€œbeing used as intendedā€ because it is promoting changes for a tournament that applies to .1 percent of the playerbase. It’s not like the 321 experiment where it was a test for ow 2 in the future. That actually made sense. This is just a dumb meme that delays mcrees inevitable nerf. The whole list of changes is basically a big spit in the face to anyone who had faith that pros would maybe make this an opportunity to benefit the game for the community.

I mean, you keep holding on to your own expectations caused by your own fault of being misinformed and growing accustomed to certain things.

First of all, experimental’s primary intented use is to let players try things that aren’t making it live, scrapped ideas etc. This is a fact.

Like I said, previously in 2021 it has been 2-3 weeks between something new, you have grown accustomed to this because they have been doing it recently.
December 2020 had 1 change on the 3rd, do you know when we got the next one? 7 weeks after on Jan 21 2021.
Sure that was likely because they were on holiday, but they never made any promises to do a new patch every 2-3 weeks. They said they’d do more frequent updates which has been true.
So again, can’t be delayed if it’s not announced, simple.

The tournament is open for everyone, does it mean any team of low ranks have a shot at winning? No, but they could get to be in a lobby with OWL players and get destroyed which is cool in its own way.

1-3-2 was a failed experiment, it was not being tested for implementation at all.

Anyone who believed that played themselves, no such promises were made and a lot of people already knew that the changes were not intended for live, the people who didn’t know probably didn’t go further than reading the title or a tweet etc.

The man has 25 extra health, relax. He’s not what’s causing the meta, he’s just one of the best DPS to play in it. Nerfing him keeps the same meta but replaces him with another damage dealer.

I love how you just dispute mcree being overpowered when i literally just gave you 3 reasons why he clearly is. Call my opinion subjective and yet give no real reason for it? That’s just dumb. Maybe even…objectively dumb lol. Why is mcree not overpowered? Tell me so i can destroy your argument.

I am genuinely not sure what to tell you, we have a disagreement. There is nothing for you to destroy because I would disagree? Do you main Doom, by the way? Just curious.