First of all her orbs stay around for too long, im a zenyatta main, if she shots that orb in a thight corridor im done, it can almost one shot me, atleast let me shot at it or make her orbs move faster.
Second and last, her ultimate lasts way too long, to a point isnt even fair, if you want to give her a anime energy blast fine, but dont forgot she’s a support, make her ult heal more than does damage or reduce her movement speed while ulting so i can get out of the way.
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Switch.
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Supports are in a bad enough spot as it is, how about we don’t start nerfing them even more?
Moira is fine, learn to play against her.
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Moira can be annoying, but often dying to her is a skill issue. She does win a 1v1 for free if the enemy misses a few shots, but if they hit them she dies.
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skill issue lmao
moira is fine.
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Tell me you dont play Moira without telling me you dont play Moira
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i hate moira, ive lost more matches doe moira dps on my team than because of the enemy team, i dont think she have a good design
If you are going to complain about a hero at least learn your facts right. She does more healing during ult than damage.
is not a skill issue, i can kill her quite often but when theres another enemy player nearby its almost impossible AS A SUPPORT to kill her, she have too much going for her
So, what you’re saying is because you couldn’t 1v2 another support + 1 … she should be nerfed?
Otherwise,
can you make up your mind about your problem here?
Beyond that, you’re also complaining about dying to orb on Zen… but won’t switch when you identify that problem?
Also, do you know how easy you must be to kill, as a player in general?
This thread has to be bait
nerf all supports yes
just kill the role so Hanzo avatars rule forever
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The orb should kill you based on how much damage it’s capable of.
You wouldn’t fight a widow or zen in an open field. You don’t fight Hanzo or Moira in a corridor.
That’s just a fact. You have to respect certain heroes spaces.
Maybe that’s why you keep losing to her.
So you can kill her except when you are 1v2 and now it’s unfair to you?
Hanzo doesn’t have 5 Mercy Bullets
This dude probably moves along with the orb lmao
neither hanzo 1 shots without even aiming but here we are
I call BS on the ult complaint. The ULT heals a lot but doens’t do enough dmg IMO if it’s supposed to be a fair mix of both.
Moira can be interrupted and killed while ulting which makes her ult too “clutch” to use if you dont want to die EVERY SINGLE TIME you use it.
I play mostly MOIRA when i’m supporting and I find that Zen’s can easily kill me too…so I’m not sure why you’re upset about this. It’s pretty fair. Your discord orb can be shot from 2000 miles away and you dont even have to aim @ me to hit me with it… Also, dont be in tight wall spaces with her–that is where she is the strongest…duh.
1 of 2 reasons, maybe both:
He’s not a good player
He’s not being genuine
It already does…
It’s her most vulnerable state too as she cannot use fade to cancel it and escape
How? are you running backwards into it or something? Pretty sure it’s unable to do 50 total on you before it passes, so you’d have to be moving with it for it to be able to stay on you for the whole 200 hp lol
(damage orb 50 DPs if it stays on you the whole time so it would take 4 second to kill you if it stays on you the whole time)
I play a lot of Moira, here is what I see which may help somewhat:
People’s first instincts when they get touched by an orb is to hold down their ‘S’ key really hard. This works in Moira’s favour as it makes your character follow the orb, so it does more damage to you.
If you get followed by an orb, walk towards and through it.
The ult does less damage than it feels like it is doing. It’s just very loud and bright and makes you internally think ‘OH GOD WTF?!’
The trick is to not panic and kite her around a corner and around obstacles. It goes through shields but not walls. A smart Moira will make her ult go through her team and into the enemy. If a Moira flies off on her own and chases someone it makes her ult far less valuable. Don’t group up, spread out.
When you suspect Moira has ult, stay back, stay close to solid cover. She either needs to then focus someone else, OR she has to go massively out of her way to ult on you (and that will usually mean overextending and getting herself killed.)
If you have a Moira who is purposefully targeting you with her ult and keeps doing it, save trance for it.
2v1 aren’t good odds. Whilst you may be able to 1v1 her effectively (and, honestly, well done because aiming with zen under pressure can be a pain) you’re not going to kill her when she has backup.
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Moira is a horrible character.
I lose count of the number of times I’ve watched a Moira on our team mindlessly running after a tank, bastion, etc, holding right click, thinking she is doing something useful because it deals consistent damage.
I lose games because of these players. If we’re going to make a mechanically simplistic support for idiots to play then the kit needs to be designed so they won’t misuse it, i.e Mercy.
They’re idiots after all.
If you give them any amount of votive agency they will just use it to make bad decisions.
found the oblivious player ^