There's no room for "niche" heroes

Do carefully read the last paragraph. They know and understand people want to main heroes and aren’t fighting to keep heroes niche.

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“Niche” is just an argument to say “It’s okay for this character to be terrible”. If a character that isn’t considered niche was changed in a way that made them so, players would be up in arms for gutting them. Why should one character be usable in every map, but others be throw picks in most situations?

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And they succeeded with everything Jeff just said in what you posted. They made her more viable to the point she sees actually play time in OWL and isn’t seen as a throw pick from the select screen. They made sym into a more viable hero. They never said they were going to make Sym into Tracer where you can play her every game on every map.

Jeff also has stated forever that people should learn more than one hero. While one tricking is not punishable Jeff said he encourages you as a player to play several hero’s as certain hero’s will not be good in every situation. Part of this game is switching it’s actually a massive part.

Sym was never and will never be designed to be a must pick hero. You can’t accept that then uninstall. Also it’s been stated she will never ever see a buff because low ranks are so attached to her turrets that as long as they exist she will never be compensated with something better.

I keep seeing we don’t OW to be COD but if every hero was interchangeable in any and every situation with no consequence where ever hero can be a must pick then you’ve lost OW and created COD. That’s the point of the game switching hero’s to give your team an advantage over another team.

Nobody wants her to be a mustpick and don’t tell me to uninstall you literal nobody lmao

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Then why are you making whinny Sym posts multiple times a day? Either accept it or don’t. Clearly you can’t handle it.

We want our hero viable, not a must pick. It’s not a heavy ask but plebs foam at the mouth at the thought of a Sym that’s not garbage on more than two maps.

If you can play hero X on every map and can’t play hero Y on more than two maps that’s objectively not fair.

If you can main hero X and you’re “not supposed” to main hero Y that’s objectively not fair.

Why have playtime scores? Why make artwork showing my most played hero? Why let us buy cosmetics / golden guns for some heroes? After all, they’re not the right ones to play the most so clearly these things just shouldn’t exist right?

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It’s absolutely hilarious to think they honestly believed this. Even in Final Fantasy XIV, where you can switch classes on the fly and technically be all of them, people one trick certain ones that fit their style best.

I’m not sure how WoW works on that front, but considering the original intent for Project Titan was to make a new MMO before that was scrapped and they moved the character designs to an FPS hero shooter… Surely they know that one tricks will always exist? And making the characters have personality and backstories would only increase that potential for people to WANT to one trick their favorite?

All characters are largely intended to be used on all maps. If they weren’t, they would be disabled as options on maps they aren’t meant to be used on. A lot of games do this. But with characters selectable on any maps, there should be no reason you can’t pick Sym, or Mei, or Bastion, Sombra, or whoever else. But for some reason, if you pick characters on the “wrong map” you’re accused of throwing. Why is this?

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You’re supposed to “know” you were being naughty by picking one of the no-no heroes on one of the civilized maps. It’s a trap to enable your wise team to report you for picking a character you like in a video game. You should have known better. You go to overbuff right now and only pick from the top 4 heroes used in any given category in GM or you get a whippin!

She is viable though. She went from dumpster fire to being viable on almost all 2CP and King of the Hill maps, and maps with close range encounters. That is viable more viable then several other dps.

Also life isn’t fair so you’re arguing because you feel a video game is unfair due to imaginary attachment? Honest question but have you played any competitive game before? Not to assume but I feel you haven’t because every competitive game weather it’s Fighting Games, FPS, 3rd Person, or MOBAs there are metas and niche hero’s and characters you only pick in certain situations. It exists in Valorant as well. This is literally every competitive game ever made. That’s why the player base is given so many options to be able to adapt, adjust, and change.

If want Sym to be even more viable in big open maps then you completely need to rework abilities and remove her turrets. But whining multiple times a day is laughable when she has gotten so much attention since launch and in a far better place.

Also funny you bring up Mei since until recently she was played and picked on every single map at every level of the game. Mei had must pick status. You’re accused of throwing because at the end of the day this is a team game. All objective but in my opinion Sombra is balanced overall but is considered bad because you need a lot of coordination to find her value. Sombra gets little value alone. If you can coordinate with a regular team or friends she can be very useful. Hence why she has a high pick rate in OWL because they spend hundreds of hours practicing where if play solo ladder Sombra finds no value even at gm level. So in a team game again certain hero’s require certain things. It’s why rein/Zarya is always popular on ladder because it takes little to no coms to make it work where dive does.

Everyone can hit gm on any hero, your losing because of your abilities not sym

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Thanks for the stupid and irrelevant comment. Please take a seat in the clown booth.

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Haha he’s not wrong you know. Plenty of Sym one tricks who place top 500 every season. Kabaji took soldier in a meta where he was a throw and unplayable and made top 500. If you’re skilled enough you can one trick anything it’s just basically playing the game on hard mode so to speak.

Sorry you’re an idiot because you think buying an account from someone else is somehow gonna give money to the charity pink mercy was for :rofl:

I can see the IQ level I’m dealing with here so I’m not gonna waste any more time on you.

RIght, as long as a person can get top500 on a given hero balance discussions mean nothing. Do you know how stupid that line of thinking is?

There are players of EVERY hero in EVERY rank. So… your conclusion is that we never need balance patches, right?

Tell me outright. We don’t need balance patches by your own logic.

Sym is balanced and viable which is what you want and what the devs gave you. She is good on every close range map which is her design. You claim you don’t want her as a must pick but you keep whining for more and more. She is a viable character end of story.

Reaper is worse than Sym should everyone start making 3 topics a day about it? You’re given the tools to improve and climb if you can’t or chose not too that’s on you not the devs.

People play the worst hero’s in fighting games too it just means they have to try twice as hard if there unwilling to switch as the devs aren’t going to change the entire game based on an obsession with a fictional character.

There were GM players with 2.0 Sym… the worst hero in the game. Just because there are people out there who know how to play the hero doesn’t mean the hero doesn’t suck.

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Still waiting for you to answer my question.

It means if your good you rank up thats what it means thats what it proves, stop being the victim all the time, sym players love to do that, man up and learn how the game is played

Oh yeah, man up, love it