There will still be a meta with hero pools

Of course there will still be a meta, but this ain’t it. The meta will constantly shift every week due to the most picked hero’s the previous week getting banned, forcing players to adapt to a new strategy, ultimately becoming the new meta, for that week.

Keeps things fresh and we don’t have to worry about there becoming a ban meta either.

Edit: Also when you think about it from a balancing stand point. the hero’s that can banned every other week is a great tell that they could use some nerfs. On the other side of the coin, the hero’s that never get picked, even when their counters are being banned is a great tell they could use some buffs.


Exactly. While it still may be a META, you wont have to run double shield every game, so people can play characters because they want to, not because they need to.

There will ALWAYS be a meta. Outside of scenarios like Mystery Heroes where the team comp constantly shifts.

Yeah so what you’re saying is metas won’t die. But we’ll have 4 options within month. Instead of one for 3 months.

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wow, is that how it works?

I wont play 1945 games, so next game please

The META will be more restrictive week to week and have the ‘best 222 out of what is left’ be the mirror matches at higher ranks every week.
In lower ranks it’s just a punishment to all players nothing more. Either they can’t play the hero they want to play or are forced to play badly and make the matches worse.

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I predict that metas will remain basically the same but just have to take slightly less than ideal counterparts. So, if barrier is meta and Rein is banned, we’ll get Orisa and/or Sigma instead.

do you rather have one meta or 4? and its only for owl that it will be 1-2-1 band. not for normal comp. it might be that they end up like this. but jeff said the first 5 weeks they will try a different amount of bans a week.

and also dont forget we still get fast and harder balance changes even with hero bans. so the their might be even more meta. like one week rein meta one week banned and one week nerfed to the ground untill they want rein back and buff him.

Could be 1, could be 1000. For 99% of the playerbase it means nothing as the meta means nothing.
I’m in Bronze where the meta is not even a consideration in matches.

yeah but for suere we wont see one meta in that season. and they also might try a rank ban only. so different ranks have different hero ban. going for the most op or most played in that rank.

Jeff did mention in a forum post about maybe making hero pools only for Diamond upwards since Plat and lower don’t really adhere to ONE specific meta

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Yeah, I still think it’s gonna be all mirror matches, but with some variations, and that’s all… Seems more interesting than mirror matches of always the same comp at least…

I mean what’s the point. I honestly feel like pretty much almost everything is viable on the soloQ ladder right now in the right circumstances. This whole pool thing is pointless, not to mention hero bans are a better option.

In my rank this already happens… I see different comps every game. Sure, some chars are more frequent than others**, but overall there is great variety. Hero pools will just shrink people’s options here.

** And often the frequent ones are just popular ones, not meta ones.

Yes I dont see how this will work out other than make things very messy.

Oh, where did he say that? That would be better. Ive heard meta isn’t really a thing before GM even, but what do I know.

well messy could be fun, like the beta and start of ow. we just have to wait and see. i do like the ideas in the dev update. but i am also gladd that they will remove it in 22 season if it does not work at all.

OWL will be running it.

The heroes will be randomly selected from a group of eligible heroes based on play-rate data from the previous two weeks of Overwatch League matches—only heroes that are being played regularly can be pulled from the next hero pool.

And Jeff confirmed something very similar.

I wonder what will happen when they say ‘Oh, Mercy has been played a lot this week, let’s remove her’ then she’s back the next week and used highly again so the following week she’s removed AGAIN. They said no hero will be banned for 14 days straight, but who’s to say they can’t be banned every 2 weeks?

Well if they are to make hero pools following the what the pro’s use. That is exactly what will happen. This week will be this meta. The next week will be this meta back and forth for all of season 21. So OWL will have 2 meta’s instead of 1.

And then they’ll try to nerf both metas, so up to 4 tanks gutted each patch!

Efficiency! Fun! /s

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