Hi,
right now there are two catagories of tanks.
Reinhardt and Off Tanks. Very sad.
Orisas shield is very paper. 600hp. LOL
Sigmas shield is small and has a cooldown, Reinhardts has no.
Winston… no words, useless Can Winston get a power? - #3 by BigManRoss-2466 - General Discussion - Overwatch Forums
Why all Main Tanks from season 8 are useless, their shield are just bad.
So explain to me how should I tank with Orisa with her shield or Winston that has nothing (would like to hear something about that from a developer).
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Winston was the best main tank in season 8, and he’s seen nothing but buffs for ages?
It’s really more that the other tanks don’t measure up to Rein in his current state/synergy, rather than the tanks are weak themselves.
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It’s more a Bash And Dash meta with lower shield HP.
Winston is useful during dive…
Orisa can be used because her CC and fortify can be helpful in busy fights.
Technically alot of use can be taken out, it’s just that Reinhardt is one of the most popular picks due to the high Shield HP.
Though the role of a tank isn’t only holding a shield, so during this meta everyone has the same handicap with low shield HP.
People just need to strategize more.
ofcourse winston was the best in season 8. I got from gold to diamond in that season with monkey. Now he maybe good for dive, but its very ez counterble
My point was that Winston’s shield has been purely buffed multiple times since then (when he was meta).
Maybe it wasn’t due to shield nerfs then.
anyway, winston is almost a trollpick :- C
Cause all the Main Tanks that are good have specific niches that the other can not compete in.
Winston can’t do what Rein does and vice versa. In order for Sigma and Orisa to be balanced they need to have their own specific things that they can do well, like Orisa could be amazing at locking down a point or objective. Sigma unfortunately is going to cause double shield, I think no matter how they balance him he’s going to be THAT guy you know?
You are talking about uniqness of classes and what they can do, but what they do is not enough to cmpete with Rein
Main Tank =/= Shield Tank
A main tanks purpose is to create space for the team, it just so happens that one of the most effective ways to do this is to consistently mitigate/deny damage from the enemy to allow for a push, which a shield does very well.
However, a main tank can also create space by disrupting the enemy team/forcing the enemy team to focus fire on them so allow for a push, something Hammond does very well if played correctly. Hammond can be a very effective main tank.
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I disagree, it depends largely on what the strat or meta is.
I think if the niches are carefully laid out, and the game was balanced enough to allow metas to go from one to the next, then it wouldn’t be an issue.
Overwatch is a game that is far too rigid in it’s design, and is afraid to allow their players to make mistakes. Compared to TF2, each class did have weaknesses and rules you had to follow in order to play them properly. There wasn’t really an easy class, assuming Pyro or Engineer was easy is what 90% of the time got your butt kicked and carved up into quarters.
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Simpler to see it like this:
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Team will have two tanks, but one of them HAS to be Rein;
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Team will have two dps, but one HAS to be Echo;
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Team will have two supports, but one HAS to be Ana.
If these don’t happen, those that haven’t picked them are throwing.
That’s the current state of Overwatch’s ‘creativity’ and ‘hero swapping dynamics’.
In my opinion Main Tank is the Tank that can Protect teammates from damage. For disrupting the enemy team there are off tanks.
And that is wrong.
There are good players and bad players. Guess which one can bring value with Winston.
What kind of player are you?
You’re missing a huge variable on why Rein is so good…Zarya. Zarya needs a couple of seconds added onto her bubble. Ever since the beam fix, she’s been a bit stronger on her own, but her ability to protect Rein has made him harder to kill while giving the tanks the ability to push up farther than they should.
I was a Winston main and I was playing very well.
Now he is just weak, low dmg, low protection. Not viable.
Zarya and D.Va both protect teammates from damage, so do Mei and Baptiste, are they main tanks?
with shields, and not just one teammate, but Whole team
Winston useless? i can work better with Zarya + Winston on KoTH than any rein there. I can’t forget the last time i lose a match vs Rein-Zarya on KoTH…
Also with coordination i can be a lot more dangerous than a Rein specially with the ANA meta giving to me nano every team-fight