I understand that widows one shot is annoying and I’ve been seeing lots of complaints about it recently but widow has ALWAYS had her one shot. In fact, during OW1 and the beginning of OW2 it was even stronger because she could one shot no matter how far away she was. The overwatch community is going down a very dangerous route.
Instead of taking time to learn basic counters and strategies to move along cover instead of into open areas covered by widow you’d rather just beg for harsh nerfs to her kit. Based on this trend who’s next on the “hit list”? Genji? Doom? Ball? Ash? Mercy?. Who’s the next character you’ll choose to blame for “ruining your ow games” and want nerfs for? Last season it was sombra and they butchered her.
Any character that has a high skill high reward play style is gonna be too much for your platinum soldier or mercy gameplay. Keep in mind that widow takes a significant amount of skill to play so even if they did nerf her people would play other high skill characters that require aim like soujorn, tracer, genji. And punish your terrible positioning just as much. Instead of destroying characters identities one at a time can we please (as a community) encourage people to play smarter. As a dps/tank player I notice my teammates playing less and less strategically and more dependent on op abilities. So when someone punishes their bad positioning and ability management they don’t know what to do and immediately run to the forums to complain.
Ps: this is why building a matchmaker around trying to make the teams “as even as possible” through mmr rating is a bad idea. You’ve got too many people winning games in diamond that don’t play at an actual diamond or even platinum level. They’re just used to being teamed up with higher mmr teammates and getting carried to victory, giving them a false sense of belonging in certain ranks and Elos.
It’s not that Widow’s 1 shot is new,it’s the fact that the game changing around her made her stronger.
One less tank already made her stronger,and the recent Sombra rework aswell.
My objection isn’t Widow existing or having a one-shot; my objection is having Widow in the majority of games. I don’t want to play Sniperwatch. Ideally, I’d like to have her show up as much as Sym (i.e., rarely). If that requires nerfing her, so be it.
People are complaining more about it now because one of her hardest counters just got nerfed, the absence of 1 tank in the transition to OW2 indirectly buffed flankers and snipers greatly, and because the S9 changes made Widow that much easier to play on top of the range buff she got as a result of the HP increases.
But of course, they can’t really nerf her range without contradicting at least 2 other nerfs, nerfing her damage or crit multiplier is an indirect nerf to her range, and nerfing either one will effectively just make her a longer ranged Ashe, who can 2 tap with a bigger bullet at around 40 meters I think. And this would inevitably lead to either buffs to other frustrating parts of Widow’s kit, or nerfs to Ashe to accommodate Widow. It wouldn’t be the first time they did that to anyone, nerfing a character because their effectiveness against 1 or 2 others.
However, I agree that she should not be gutted or hard reworked to lets say a hero that can’t oneshot.
Oneshot is her identity, but there are meaningful ways to reduce frustration without changing Widow too much.
Bring her closer to the fight by nerfing her range. This will naturally increase the amount of heroes who can interact with her and will also increase the element of risk to her gameplay.
Revert her projectile size buff. No idea how this hasn’t happened yet.
Nerf her scope charge rate.
Give her scope flare at 50% charge. Can be flexibly balanced as needed.
Take a page out of Marvel Rivals’ book and make her oneshot work similarly to Hawkeye’s.
It could be one or several of these, and they would be meaningful changes.
Two generations:
“One”
-Mommy, Billy hit me!
-Oh, thats bad, lets go to martial art class and next time you will be able fight agains that Billy.
“Two”
-Mommy, Billy hit me!
-Oh no, Im calling principal, that Billy needs therapy that will make him less aggressive.
Two ways, two outcomes, none of them is better than another. Read last sentence again before replying
People hate that there is no longer an effective DPS counter to her aside from a better Widow. They indirectly made her stronger when they nerfed Sombra.
Don’t forget, two or MORE, game spent a lot of time on in open queue after all
If that’s what they do you’ll have to shoulder the blame for speaking it into existence. You will have to pay for your crimes if that happens
Woah woah sojourn also used to have a one shot with rail on widow. So you could also play sojourn into widow quite reliably actually. Until her last set of nerfs that made rail only 150 damage instead of 195. With widow having 175hp you could rail her head and deal with her that way too
They have some history nerfing ways to deal with widow over the last year while widow just gets to keep her one shot
Over the last year? I mean over the last several years. It just seems like widow naturally just gets better and better with each big game mechanic change
Widow is currently sporting 200hp life, so Sojourn would need a 200+ damage headshot to one-tap her with the rail gun. Of course she does have her LMB rapid fire shots to level the playing field.
