The Truth About 5v5 in Overwatch 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO5PgmnddEg

Once again SAMITO discussing about 6v6 and seriously it would be best if there was one podcast with him, Freedo from Your Overwatch, Hawk former OWL pro player and Aaron Keller, but Blizzard will never agree to that because white flag will already be in the air.

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6v6 problems can not be solved. End of the story. 6v6 had much worse problems than 5v5 has. The main ones being:

  • tank synergy balance
  • queue times
  • weak DPS role impact
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Then i guess double-shield wasn’t fixable as well or was it?

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It absolutely was. They either just had no idea what they were doing or didn’t want to spend the resources reworking the heroes that needed to be reworked/rebalanced to fix the issues because they’d kinda already ditched the game to focus on OW2. Or a bit of both.

Double Shield was absolutely a design/balance issue. Not an issue with the format.

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queue times is the only reasonable argument for 5v5, 6v6 totally could of been solved, dps still doesnt have impact in this game other than one shots.

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Double shield was never a main problem for most of the game. Other tank synergies were as much of a problem, but normalized. This resulted in terrible balance for tanks and the role losing most players. The change to 6v6 would need to double the tank players playing with weaker versions just to have the same times.

Its impossible.

No.

Skill issue of DPS. Most games are DPS gaps.

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Bring back 6v6 and let the current state of skill rework stay the same and not rely on double shield, Buff all dps damage as well just a little

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Wow it was a really big problem for Blizzard that they reworked Orisa.

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They reworked her, because her slow, bunker kit would not work in OW2. Otherwise, they would have kept her. They even said WHY they reworked her. Its was NOT because of double shield.

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More like Blizzard made Orisa fun to play in the wrong format.

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That’s neat. I don’t care about what Samito has to say. Do you have an argument of your own to offer? Because simply reposting other people’s words is not compelling.

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The right format for the health of the game.

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yes.

supports have better dps capabilities than the actual role, bap, illari, ana, zen, lucio, kiriko.
they NEED these abilities because of the lack of the 2nd tank to provide support, which makes the game super frustrating most of the time.

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Oh yes. 6v6 was: Fun, unique and motivating for me. I was always able to carry no matter role and the only thing which required was skill which i was slowly getting. That’s why i agree with Samito’s points regarding 6v6.

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Why should we care about the thoughts of a man that can’t even remember that he quit OW (again)?

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And now they are putting self-heal passive for every role to eliminate that skill issue. Wow what a way to do it.

Honestly, we can’t really say anything until it’s out and we’ve given it a chance. It might be better for the game, or worse, who knows?

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Fun and motivating I get, though I’d argue the same applies to 5v5, and would apply equally to 4v4. Unique, though? Hardly. Titanfall 1 and 2 featured Attrition - a 6v6 PvP mode with secondary objectives. I’d argue Titanfall 2 as a whole is far more “unique” than Overwatch ever was, due to both mixing parkour and Titan gameplay as well as PvE elements. Overwatch is ostensibly just arena PvP with a twist.

This is why I asked for a specific argument - because I had a suspicion that your preference for 6v6 is subjective and could easily be applied to 5v5. That’s been the case nearly every time the topic has come up. I’m not saying you shouldn’t like 6v6 - far from it. You like what you like. I’m simply arguing that the team size difference is largely academic to the overall experience.

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Eh, I like 5v5 over 6v6. I had the same skill issue in 6v6 that I had in 5v5, something a lot of players can’t admit up to. There’s no real difference to the game other than the pace of it being faster, which I prefer anyways.

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Well i am glad that someone understands. I have been playing OW since 2018. and i have seen quite a lot.