The Tracer buff might end up gutting the tank/healer populations

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If the devs want to bring dive back, then they need to restore Brigitte and Sombra’s ability to counter it… More specifically, Tracer.

I’m calling it now, Tracer’s range buff is going to turn her into even more of a damage monster than what Hanzo became when he got Storm Arrow. Unless the devs do something fast, a good Tracer will be even more oppressive and have even less counterplay than a good Widowmaker.

Sombra used to be able to reliably Hack Tracer, but then the Tracer elitists complained that Hurr Durr Tracer having a counter isn’t fair. The devs complied and removed Sombra’s 0.1 second grace period on hack’s LoS requirement, which means that Tracer can now break hack just by blinking.

Brigitte used to be a Tracer counter, but then she was abused for GOATS and later got reworked into a dumpster. Now Tracer counters Brigitte.

The Age of Tracer looms on the horizon. Unless the devs put in some significant safeguards, we’re going to lose a lot of tank and healer players due to Tracer (once again) turning them into her personal punching bags - with nothing her victims can do to stop her.

Playing against a good Tracer, getting mowed down and never being able to do anything to pin her down and stop her is the worst, most disgustingly helpless feeling ever. No one is going to want to play tank or healer, not if it means being subjected to that.

No one likes being a punching bag. We’ve already lost too many tank and healer mains to anti-goats nerfs turning many of them into a chore to play - making them any more frustrating to play than they already are will accelerate turnover faster than the game can sustain.

If that happens… Have fun with dps ques getting significantly longer than they already are, due to there being a crisis-level shortage of tank and healer players.

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Good. Now everyone can suffer 10 min+ queue times :slight_smile:

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Including Tracer.

I highly doubt this is as bad as people think it is. It’s three extra metres.

If it becomes a problem, I have faith Blizzard will take appropriate action. (Hopefully in the form of Brigitte buffs)

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Ah yes, the dreaded age of tracer, you know that character that always had negative winrates at almost every rank below diamond yet still miraculously always hard carried when on red team yet got flamed and asked to swap when on your team

Such a scary future incoming indeed. either good satire or good bait, got me either way

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Seeing how they have been treating Sombra so far have my fate in them dropped quite a bit.

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Yeah, 8 months down the road.

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Don’t have faith in the balancing team, you’ll only be disappointed. These are the same guys who thought Valkyrie 1.0 was balanced, and pushed it to live servers over the screaming of pretty much Mercy’s entire playerbase warning them “No, don’t do it!! It’s broken as hell!!!”

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What is Tracer going to do from an extra 3 meters away to Sigma except spam into his shield as he bursts her down with his still superior range? Tracer would still need to enter past my shield and eat a rock combo.

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If tanks / supports don’t queue up, it means they will still have instant queue times, it is the dps queue which will blow out further.

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Huh? Why would Blizz Buff Brig to bring back dive??? She’s already good against it…

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She used to be good against it, before her rework.

Now her shield breaks in a stiff breeze, and repair packs are now an inferior defense vs burst damage.

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I think the lack of awareness hurts players more than these Tracer range buff.

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Honestly, I can’t be bothered to refute your baseless points on a hero who had a negative wr in plat and below during dive meta. If you still fear tracer as a support you are garbage, that is all.

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Lol that cute.
We talking about tracer here, queen of the enemy backline.
She dont need to pass ur shield cuz shes already on the back.
Ur rock worth nothing if she dodge it easly.
This meta is pretty hard for me as 1 trick tracer but this buff is super.
Mccree flash is 7m while tracer optimal range is 10m.
U need to bait it to be safe but now u got 6m away to just 1 clip it without worry about flash.
Brig stun is 5m range.
Tracer dmg wont only be better on 13m, but even longer then that cuz its proportional.
That buff sound crazy but only time will tell.
Dia 1 trick tracer.

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Brigitte is unironically fine. It’s not her meta.

I’m not even saying this to mock the people who say this about Genji. It genuinely isn’t her meta and she’s genuinely balanced- she may even be overtuned in reality. Just look at how high her winrate is currently.

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Yeah you’d probably wreck me now anyways without the buff because I hang around gold to plat. Still any Sigma worth his salt can still spam you with balls and peg you with a skillful/lucky rock. I don’t think a diamond Sigma will have any trouble with you at all.

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I think she still is after her rework.

Agreed :+1:

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All this change does is give her some of her tank killing ability she lost from the pulse bomb nerf. Except its less burst. Tis a good change since the falloff changes arw really only decent against tanks.

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After 1k hrs on tracer i dont find troubles with dia sig.
Maybe master sig is a bit harder.

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Can we not rewrite history here and not shift the blame off from those actually responsible?

The devs broke Hack with the cast-time buff, and while you could find a few complaints from Tracer mains (and everyone really), the loudest and vast amount of outcry came from tank mains. Instead of doing the sensible thing and simply reverting to when Hack was fine, the devs instead choose to be stubborn idiots by going with their LoS “fix” which of course, fixed nothing for the most upset players and simply broke it against mobility.

And really, I recall most Tracer players being pretty cool with Sombra as a counter.

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