Don’t engage him his intention is clear wants to dilute threads he is a copy paste clipboard 
that will go nowhere check my profile I have answered him enough on this and it’s a waste of time.
Let’s focus on hanzo and talk to blizzard and ignore the clipboard he will reply to me too now just ignore.
My intention is to use physical reality, and world class game design professionals, along with evidence from every other shooter game.
Not this kind of nonsense you keep putting up dude.
You’ve never taken a serious attempt to justify yourself, even once.
How about this: young GreyFalcon creates a game, that plays better than Overwatch, and satisfies every player fantasy, since he seems to understand game balance and design better than anyone (developers, and players alike). We will play it and see if it will stand on its own as a superior and better designed/balanced game. I have been looking at your posts, and honestly I think you need to be knocked down a peg, because you think your miniscule gaming experience and surface-level reading trumps actual player experience. I can see that you have never (not even once) used your balance opinions in actual game application. Make an Overwatch custom mode where everything is balanced at every rank. If that is the case, I’ll take you seriously. If not, then you’re just a hack.
Your posts seem to be pure narcissism to me. You disregard every other opinion, and deem every other player’s opinion to be inferior to your own.
In fact, I’ll make it a little easier for you! Get to t500 on current Hanzo without a Mercy pocket, and document the journey!
I’ve got more class based shooter design experience than anybody in Top500 or OWL.
And that’s not even a question, that’s just a statement of fact.
Where is the physical reality? You have not used a single example where your balance opinions are applicable. I’m waiting…
So you think human reaction speed, and internet latency, and travel speeds, have nothing to do with physics?
Just one. Give me just one shooter you have balanced that played better.
Bro he has no intention to understand I know it’s tempting and even I got sucked in again but he is ruin the thread from hanzo to trash subj cts
Gotcha. I’m replying to his takes because they’re humorous and misinformed, honestly. All of my takes have been informed by experience. I have shown this in my breakdown of high rank Hanzo gameplay. Ask any t500 Hanzo player and they will agree. Every one of his opinions seems to be based on literature from RTS game devs from 20-30 years ago, with zero experience playing this game that is literally the subject of discussion.
No he knows it don’t think he is replying these are exact copy pasta he spams , so when Dev’s see feedback it gets confused he used to ruin all ha xo threads like this for a year probably why bad feedback was taken, he doesn’t even play the gamefor years.
He is a pharah main getting some by snipers and hates them.
Either way we need to refocua on hanzo.
He is practically spamming every hanzo thread with unrelated garbage spam
Ok, sounds good. Ignore the uneducated haters. Sorry, I’m new to the forums.
Well, here’s a post I made in Season 7 that had:
And here’s a whole laundry list of “guesses”. And I could probably add a few more for Season 10.
One shots are in every game and are way more unfair - #119 by GreyFalcon-11737
Helldivers 2, I got one of their lead gameplay designers following me, also realize I talked to their CEO that the smoke should be a stun grenades (next patch has stun grenades), there should be a reliable way to kill chargers with a calldown (next patch buffs EATs and Rocketpods), about how to avoid rocket oneshots (but somes it glitches out and you die) how to survive arc thrower attacks without the arc armor or the heavy armor (next patch fixes this, including the glitch) and how I got this crazy anti armor build, because recoiless is the only weapon with enough ammo efficiency to kill all the medium armor enemy spam (next patchbuffs anti armor), but don’t worry they will have more build variety when they add sniper rifles with medium armor pen (this patch has two primaries with medium armorpen). And how I tried using Liberator Penetrator, but it just sucks with killing small bots. (Next patch has full auto)
And I reported how solve their crashes which was caused by arc throwers. And the last frame of the extraction (next patch has fixes for those crashes)
Heck, I even said “Well you know, it’s flying terminids now, but what you bet, they are going to add automaton flying drones” (next patch has automaton drones)
PVE, cool… How about PVP?
All of those games besides Darktide and HellDivers 2, are PVP.
But by all means, show me even 1 Top500 player, or OWL player that comes even close to that.
Solve Hanzo, please.
There’s a variety of ways to do it, but they mostly boil down to
That said, probably the best I could get away with, with how obstinate the devs have been would be something like this, followed by buffing lunge.
Since he doesn’t need to be able to delete Tanks, if he can use mobility to get out of Winston/D.va range.
But unfun supports are ok.
Like Mercy and Moira, and if you complain about them it’s because you’re bad.
Never mind that Hanzo had counterplay and you had to be good on him, no.
The REAL skill is playing Mercy or Moira.
I’d like to say that Widow is far from a consistent character. She has a singular notable quality and is good when hitting headshots and nearly useless otherwise.
Her venom mine does very little besides reveal enemy locations directly or indirectly. Hanzo is much more consistent with his sonic arrow in terms of it actually being useful.
Widow’s SMG is a bad weapon. Usable, but definitely the worst primary weapon in the game. Hanzo again is much more consistent with his close range threat and close range is where more of the game happens since many characters are restricted to it or are only good to medium range.
Widow’s grapple is a good form of movement undoubtedly, but it does have a rather long cooldown that can make escapes unreliable either after using it or before it’s even off cooldown. Hanzo has two forms of mobility that don’t go as far, but with the low cooldown of lunge and no cooldown of wallclimb, Hanzo is much more versatile in positioning.
Widiw’s ult is obviously great, but given it does literally nothing on its own it’s not exactly what I’d call consistent value. Hanzo’s ult isn’t consistent in value either, but it is more direct in application and can secure kills on it’s own.
Widowmaker is a better character than Hanzo on paper, but only on paper or in the hands of professionals. Her reliance on hitting headshots to do anything noteworthy at all combined with her long cooldown on her important ability makes her rather inconsistent compared to Hanzo.
He has no good ideas…he is probably the worst person to ask to fix hanzo.
Hanzo stole his lunchbox whenhe was a kid holds a grudge to till this day.
How does making him die more than he already does make him more viable?
How does making his gameplay loop more luck based make him more enjoyable to play?
What of his sniper weakness of having slowed movement whilst charging an arrow?