My experience so far has been Rein gets nano and you take the L. The guy feels invincible. Idk If this is a change for gm players but I never felt like Rein is super weak in the ranks I’m at. I just don’t understand why these buffs are necessary.
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I might be overreacting a bit, but if those Reinhardt buffs go through then tank balance below Masters will be completely shattered (pun intended).
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The funny part is double shield will be meta, but just more Zen instead of Brig. Perhaps tho that means dive might come back?
I’m just worried about how strong he might be if rush becomes meta again, especially if they further buff him if double shield doesn’t go away
Plat and below meta wouldn’t be that bad though, if they nerf the SelfPeel on Orisa/Sigma, and buff their barriers. Then buff Winston.
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All these buffs do is encourage bad players to go charging in recklessly.
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nothing would stop the bad players from charging in…thats why theyre bad players
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Devs suspect Rein+non-shield tank combo would be able to pressure Orisa/Sig, but I don’t reckon that’s gonna happen.
But hopes up, weirder things have happened.
If we end up in Rein/Sigma/Orisa shifting places meta-wise then at the very least it’s change for the best, not a full on poke comp, Rein needs to brawl, and hopefully that could enable different DPS and supports.
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I agree as a Rein main. I been listening hard to Freedo lately and I am agreeing with him that stats buffs don’t fix much if anything they just create new problems elsewhere.
Let’s ask ourselves what problem are these buffs intended to solve? I would guess that they are ‘meant’ to make Rein better vs Sigma + Orisa comps. OK, fine, that is a good goal to have for game balance. But instead of just making Rein better vs EVERYTHING, I might suggest tuning Sigma down just ever so slightly by increasing his minimum Barrier distance.
That small change IMO might be all it takes to turn Double Barrier from a must-have to a might-work. No need to OP Reinhardt.
Although, TBH, as a Rein main, I will take all the free SR that these buffs will give me. Believe me, it will be a LOT.
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If it ends up being something like Rein+D.Va or Zarya gets played a lot more because of Rein being op then I’d be all for that because I personally love Rein and Zarya/D.Va metas. But If it just ends up becoming Rein and whatever other double barrier then that will feel pretty awful.
There’s a lot of counters Grav him beat him. Chain CC him.
Git gud complaining about a ult combo.
I bet you 100% they will pull a D.Va on Reinhardt… 
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Why don’t you want rein dva any more?
No, Im talking about nerfing rein to oblivion and then taking 2 years to properly buff thm.
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The balance below GM is never bad, becauce everything is skill dependent
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What? There’s plenty of unbalanced heroes below GM. Look at Orisa, there’s no reason to pick her when double shield doesn’t matter.
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This patch is just powercreep, what they should’ve done is nerf bap and sigma.
I’ve never seen so many players come out of the woodworks claiming that we should balance around plat.
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Good to see ya around the forums. They’re just shook, they don’t remember that back in bunker meta (post goats, pre Sigma) Reinhardt had a higher pick rate that Orisa even though she absolutely destroyed him with better shields and 130 dps to shred his. Plat will never not play Rein.
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This is the crux of it, yeah.
thats not even a health issue. it nano being nano.
The issue here is the damage.
thats because you dont play rein. No one knows what reinhardt struggles with besides rein players.
He struggles at getting in close and CC and the fact his shatter is bad rn.
All rein mains ahve been asking for shatter nerf revert and 5% to 10% more steadfest thats it.
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