The rank system is bs

Does anyone have any idea what stats the system is looking for in the support queue to rank up? I was gold in OW1 and I placed Bronze 3 (literally how??) in OW2. I played kiriko and ana religiously trying to climb out of bronze and performed pretty well I think. Had one of if not the highest healing in the game, still did a fair share of damage when the time called for it, and destroyed enemy utility to make space for my damage dealers. HOWEVER, I won my games 5w-3L and deranked to Bronze 5. I have no idea why I deranked or what they’re looking for in a support so I can focus on that to rank up. But the more I try and try to rank up I stay stagnant in B5. It seems ridiculous. And everywhere I look online nobody knows how the rank system works. So the system seems broken asf. It’s total bs! Calculates individual performance in a team game my a**

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It makes a lot more sense when you realize they’re not doing it for your benefit but to try to force engagement out of you.

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I was always Gold & deranked to Bronze 1. The matches were 75% one sided before. The matches in Bronze are full of smurfs. Widow in every game & these aren‘t your Bronze Widows. Matches are now more one sided & I don‘t think I‘m gonna get out of Bronze as support, probably ending up in Bronze 5 and even at this level there will be dps & tank smurfs. It wasn’t that bad in OW1.

I believe this is what pushed Flats to start doing QP. It’s a bad ranking system when your rank is better by not doing anything.

It’s only based off of wins and losses, not stats. Confirmed by devs, several times. So it’s really not an “unknown” thing.

The bronze placement was probably a result of the glitch that happened when OW 2 first launched. Tons of existing accounts got placed bronze and were having a heck of a time trying to crawl back out. People put in tickets but there wasn’t much they could do. One of my friends got tossed down to bronze and he only recently got out to silver.

Well yes and no.

This has been talked about before.

But to summarize. The devs did say that but who you win/lose against determines how much you climb or fall.
And your mmr determines who you play with and against.
And (we can only assume) your performance determines your mmr.

So yes, while wins and losses affect your sr (devs confirmed), your performance has an input somehwere in the system (devs no comment)

And what is causing the biggest issue, from my perspective, is how the mmr is calculated.

As its that system that puts either smurfs or under performers in your games.

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The quicker you learn, the ranked system in ow2 is garbage and means literally nothing. The better off you’ll be.

It’s QP premium. Treat it as such.

lol, sadly that how to get a enjoyble widow experience. Because, unless you are insanely good at widow, you will get dived and die very quickly after the enemy team focus you. For some widow players they can only enjoy playing her at low ranks😂

100% i was stuck in gold/plat as support FINALLY climbed to Diamond 4 had amazing teams and games, backup, communication, switching when needed so forth, now out of no where those people dont seem to exist anymore, im getting 1 tricks who get countered dont switch and are dead 90% of the match, people going in 1v5, trickling in, and just so many more issues and im honestly over it. You thought i was good enough to be matched with these players and teams before and now all of a sudden all of those people are on the enemy and im just dealt with traysh players? If the system launched me up to high fine so be it, but at least make the matches feel balanced and not like a purposeful one sided stomp to drag me back down. In less than 24 hours the game has decided i no longer deserve to be on teams with people that have brains and i dont understand why. Currently going 1-7 right now and my last game Tank:1-6 DPS:1-5 DPS: 0-5. Enemy Tank: 12-0 DPS:13-1 DPS:12-1. Like in no shape or form was that game even remotely fair or balanced and my team did nothing but scatter and die.

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Funny thing is we have never known what stats they look at, we used to have a progress bar towards next level they removed that too so they don’t want you to know anything :slight_smile:

This video broke my brain


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That is insane, so basically if you want to rank up an entire 1000 sr to the next rank you simply do your placements & then quit ranked???

Its why they increased how many games you had to play this season for top500
 so people could coast on a few wins and get it

I’ve been suspecting for a while now that Blizzard went full out Pay2Win with Overwatch “2”, and that video did not exactly lessen my suspicions in any way.

Remember: if it happens to be the case that the whales get special treatment by the rank system and matchmaker, the rest of the player base needs to lose more when player numbers starts to shrink.

If it’s the case that the matchmaker and ranking system isn’t broken but actually doing exactly what it’s designed to do, the weird effects and one-sided matches should get worse and more extreme as the (non-spending) player base declines in numbers.

I wish it would put me in gold, rather than this dog poo matches I get in GM.

The ranked system is designed by one of the most incompetent developers they have on staff. The person has no clue what they’re doing, they’re bad at math, and they don’t ever bother to educate themselves on the topic.

It’s not going to get better until the MM developer is fired and the code is made transparent for open source people to validate/verify.

This will never happen, because the person is holding up their end of the bargain → get paid in cash and maintain the scam.

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Do you have any replay codes? Bronze 5 isn’t an easy rank to get in to
 support is either the hardest or the easiest role to climb on depending on how you are playing

Everyone knows how the ranking system works some people just refuse to believe it :stuck_out_tongue:

The dev’s needs to address the community on this. They should just be open on how people are ranked and not keep it some hidden secret. If the fear is well if we open it up people can exploit it, well I will tell you we will figure that out quick and you can fix it. It can’t get any worse than it is currently now. That video is insane to me.

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There’s nothing wrong with the matchmaking, just ask Roku


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Precisely. Just look at this cringe EOMM patent they recently renewed JUST BEFORE OW2 LAUNCH:

Isn’t that some of the most disgusting tech you could ever spend dev resources on?
No wonder we can’t have good things in OW2. Aaron blew the budget perfecting how to EOMM and rig games instead of giving us things like LFG that would help us bypass some of the rigging.

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