Easy - they don’t. They just add some artificial reasons to play support and would call it job done.
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They should add an ability where mercy can beam lock-on to an enemy to reduce their damage by like 30% while she’s locked on.
Support is the least impactful role now by far. You can still win with bad supports, you can’t win with bad dps or tank. If the carry on your team is a DPS or tank you will walk all over the enemy team, if the carry is a support, you can still easily lose.
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unless you’re a moira who can out damage a dps and outheal most healers if you’re good.
I’ve had some good fortune escaping attacks with Kiriko, even from enemy Genji. There are risk times like when you see a lone tank around a corner somewhere, and usually those are times you let them fall if they are out of place for no reason.
Sometimes wall climbing saves me from some enemies.
The hardest part is trying to contribute damage as her though with such a slow attack rate and the need to never stop throwing paper heals.
I mean the role literally says support.
It is in the name that your biggest impact is in supporting others, which in return means others have to capitalize from your support.
In OW2 they already reworked everything, so supports can fight off enemies on their own and get easily to safety, sometimes even both.
They also buffed tanks to the level, that they do not crumble if their supports are busy for half a second on their own.
What he is saying is technically right, but I can not see what is wrong with that. With choosing support you actively choosing a role that makes others shine.
Yes but tanks can deal damage, 76 can heal allies, Mei can heal herself, and Echo can copy tanks and supports as well as damage classes.
The important thing is the game is. Fun and balanced for players and heroes alike, and if that means some supports and a bit more deadly, so be it, except the death vampire Moira. Nerf that nonsense.
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Give Bastion back his heal to take more pressure off the healers 
couldn’t care less
Out of context buddy
gets people who really could care less about support they just want their rewards n done
PLEASE DON’T SELECT A SNIPPET AND TAKE IT OUT OF CONTEXT CNN
You worse than MSM
So can supports. Supports can shut down pretty much everything, that´s not gone.
What is mostly gone is healbotting, you will not find much success with that.
True, and with a lot of emphasis on fun. Fun does not necessary mean balanced.
In fact there are quite a lot of heroes in this game, that need to be weak for the game to be fun.
Honestly delete this stupid hero.
90% of Moira players are so braindead, if you see a Moira in your team it is almost always an instant loss. On the other hand if there is one on the other team and you don´t have one it is almost always an easy 5v4 win, and both is not fun.
They really didn’t. They gave supports the bare minimum, took away stuns, and allowed flankers to have free reign over the backline.
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Ah yes, the Zen kick is useful in EVERY situation. It can kick them a mile away.
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I watched the OP Video.
If you watched the video from all 3 perspective (a DPS player, Support and Tank).
I imagine the Support role looks like a complete snooze fest. Most of the time he is looking away from the action, at his own teammates. Then uses abilities to teleport to his teammates, heal then back out again (away from the action).
It also requires the most amount of thinking:
Stay out of line of sight
Manage cooldowns
Keep checking on all 4 other players and their health bars
Duel flankers who have an edge over you
Compare this to DPS for example:
Choose what fight to engage
Sometimes blindly run forward expecting heals and aim for the head
Manage ability cooldowns
Health bars are visible, everyone can see them. There is no bar telling you how accurate the DPS are and their accuracy. So flaming a healer is justifiable, they let the health bar decline. I can’t flame a DPS for not hitting close to 50% accuracy.
It’s so much more fun and engaging to play DPS than support.
I don’t think this can even be fixed.
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You shouldn’t be able to survive a dive in your own. That’s the point of dives and flankers.
You need to be by your team. Or have someone with you. If you don’t that’s a team work issue and not something devs should balance around.
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If you think mercy isn’t mobile then that’s a you being bad problem. Not a balance problem.
The reason those two don’t need team mates to fly is bc they ARENT SUPPORT. It’s in the name, man…mercy needs people to fly bc they SUPPORT each other.
If you’re teleporting into the unknown that’s a you problem. Have better map awareness. Track enemies better. Track abilities better.
If you don’t have teammate support that’s a team work problem.
Devs cant balance around poor team work and bad ability decisions.
Well, they do need to balance around poor team work as that’s 90% of games right now.
As to your Mercy point. You’re implying that supports need to have less agency and be reliant on team mates. Whereas dps don’t.
Hmm, I’d rather play the role with more self agency.
The Mercy player could be fine. Her team mates could be in crap positions.
As to Moira. Is she brain dead easy to play? Maybe. But, so are Junkrat, Torbjorn, Sojourn, etc
As to nerfing Moira. I think that would be a deeply bad idea. She’s the support best suited for 5v5 and they need to be raising the other supports up to her level.
If Moira gets nerfed I’d expect even longer dps and tank queues.
But, tbh, I wouldn’t put anything past the devs at this point. Zarya, Sombra, Genji and Sojourn still unpatched, so I’m not expecting good things tbh.
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if my team thinks i dont exist i agree.
playing with friends, for me it feels like the best role by far.
so much power to navigate my team in and out through danger and damage while putting focus on the right enemy to either safe our backline or focus the enemies backline.
if i play dps alone its less bad, as i can fully focus on myself and go for it.
with friends its similar as i can’t really “support” them i can just kill the enemy they want to be killed.
atm we run jq+kiriko with pretty good results.
my biggest fear is going ana or zen without peel, as then i would too despise the role.
support without peel feels bad. no terrible.
with peel its the most amazing thing in ow from my pov and i used to play a lot dps. (dps best without peel, all thought probably tanks in ow2)
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They can and should.
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They did, every support either can easily kill flankers or has an ability to easily avoid them, or sometimes even both. Supports now are actually better DPS then the flanker DPS going after them, + their utilities + healing + second life mechanics.