I can finally pin point what’s happening to the community:
Empathy is pushed to the sides, to the extreme. You find less and less people in the middle and more and more on the sides.
People who have little empathy and people who deeply care.
The name change made this obvious.
For many who are against it, it’s not about politics or SJW, it’s that they don’t understand the impact of it for the people who are affected by this. Pushed aside ignored and don’t bringt it
While the other side mentioned weeks before that a name change will happen and how concerned they were.
Similar is smurfing:
"I smurf and why should I care about other? "
They are literally unempathetic, they can’t comprehend how a community, society works
The unempathetic are here because they want their games to be fun, their definition about fun, the empathetic stayed because they care about the community
You know as a gay guy myself who has received a crap ton of bullying and abuse as a kid, I consider myself on the empathetic side when it comes to cases of abuse. You know what causes me mixed feelings with this situation though? The fact that all this action is taken before even the case is closed. And yeah, I get it that in this case it’s quite obvious and the chances of this guy (Jesse McCree) being innocent are very low, but I have actually seen with my own eyes a person get falsely accused (albeit not in court) and losing privileges because of that, and it made my blood boil. I can’t help but ask myself, where do we draw the line? What if this sets a stepping stone for this to be happening in less obvious cases from now on? Of course, that is a slippery slope logical fallacy, and that’s why I said “mixed feelings”, but overlooking the Presumption of Innocence principle can be dangerous as well. Honestly, idk where I stand with this… I just hope everyone gets what they deserve in the end
I get you and things are moving fast, at least it’s expected they are moving fast, but that’s because too little happened in the last decade and even longer.
You can be critical and empathetic, they are not exclusive
This isn’t new, it isn’t exclusive to OW and it doesn’t mean what you think it means. This isn’t an issue with the community, it’s an issue with the vocal community. People in the middle ground absolutely do exist. They just don’t make posts about it, because they don’t have strong feelings.
You only see the extreme opinions because only people with extreme opinions care enough to comment.
I have always thought that the justice system should recognize the difference from a malicious accusation and a false accusation.
malicious accusation: The accuser knew for a fact that they are lying and just want to damage the victim. These people are degenerates and hurt real SA victims and innocent people. Damning evidence would be them gloating about lying and bragging about the damage they’re causing. These people have crossed a line and should be labeled a sex offender and receive similar punishment.
false accusation: The accuser may knew for a fact, or believed that they were genuinely a victim of SA, but the evidence was not there for the court to issue a gulity verdict. This is different from a malicious accusation, as they wanted justice for themselves and their rights.
Either way, common courtesy should be to keep these matters private since a mob can make the affair very messy. I understand that such a system is not perfect and has flaws. But it’s a start imo to a better system for all.
I support the name change but I don’t consider myself some bleeding heart empath. I mostly just think a) if your character is explicitly named after someone awful of course it’s going to be changed, regardless of how minor it is. Just because it’s really minor doesn’t mean it’s something that shouldn’t be changed. Why would you think keeping it is ok? Would you support a Ted Bundy hero?
b) Mcree’s name change absolutely does not matter nearly as much as some are pretending it does. It’s not central to its character other than being vaguely cowboy-esque and there are a million other names like it. People don’t even like it in the overwatch universe.
This is going to go like most other Overwatch changes in that everyone is really mad immediately and then in a few weeks no one cares because frankly it’s quite a minor issue.
Why do you care? My fifty years on the surface of this planet have taught me to be numb. If you care too much, you will be consumed. This is not the place, nor the time to care.
Numb yourself, harden your feelings, stifle your emotions for there is an unprecedented storm coming, love. Brace for it.
The problem is too much empathy not tempered with reason and common sense.
The problem is you are making a mountain out of a molehill. There is no comparison between happening to see his name on a character and then in turn actually working with the person who shares the name. I mean, if grown-ups are literally incapable of distinguishing their feelings on a name on a fictional character from a real person, and not identifying the fact one is basically irrelevant to the other in reality, the problem then is the person and we should in fact not be encouraging this kind of association making. I guarantee you some female that was a victim here would not be in tears every day having to see that name or the character. I have known more than one victim of actual, real rape and not a one would have cared about this name used in this context because they know the name was not representative of the person. That’s all there really is to it. All this did was create a convenient excuse for delaying the game further.
it also just continues to show how disingenuous Blizz is and how frankly inept and out of touch they still really are.
Thx for needlessly dragging not only the whole player base community into this drama while also accomplishing absolutely nothing whatsoever via brandishing one of the characters in the game as the one “formerly known as a sexual predator” from the point forward from which you insisted that the character in the game as being THE PROBLEM too.
Here’s my empathy: Blizzard stops unilaterally deleting HR documents that are CRITICAL for the lawsuit and that they are trying to prevent the Judges from seeing, and gives up on a name change that has zero impact in real life.
Guess WHICH of these moves is 1000000000000000% better for the victims.
The German government in the late 30’s early 40’s used this exact tactic, as did the Russian and Chinese communists when they came in, and its the defacto standard in North Korea right now. Its a well known tactic. The best part about the Internet; you can’t really do it which is one reason certain Middle-Eastern and Asian countries are so keen to try to control it.
This is a well said counterpoint. It broadly applies to many things, especially sensitive problematic things that adults seems to have a difficult time parsing today.
I’m fine with the name change if it was done because of the OW team. We don’t know all the details of the affair, and a close analogy for this situation would be getting a tattoo of your partners name on yourself. It’s a bad idea, and it’s hard even for a mature, professional adult to separate the objective reality of ink on the skin and the association with the letters to the ex-lover which causes negative feelings that become obstacles.
If they changed the name because it was an obstacle for the team, then for this niche situation, I am for the name-change.
Disagreeing with the name change doesn’t necessarily indicate a lack of empathy. Just as agreeing with it doesn’t necessarily make someone a better or more moral or virtuous person.
If McCree was named to commemorate the accomplishments or character of the real person he was named after, the way some buildings or streets or projects or trophies are, then, yeah, it totally makes sense to empathize and change the name if that individual turns out to have committed atrocities.
But when the person merely had a cool sounding cowboy name, and had no hand or say in the development of the video game hero, that’s a vastly different story.
Sure, the name change may be beneficial to those virtual signalers triggered by it or those projecting their unrelated trauma on it, but it’s in no way necessary.
Stripping Zarya’s Alien skin of any association to the accused OWL player was necessary because it actually honored his accomplishments and he had input into its creation. But stripping McCree of his cool cowboy name is unnecessary, regardless of how validated or championed people feel by the confirmed change.
People need to stop painting this a divisive issue. There’s nothing right or wrong about the name change. And it’s ok for players to disagree about it.
Yep, the far left government consolidated too much power as their pure socialist model allowed the public sector to grow way too much (this is why pure communism and socialist models fail, US intervention just accelerated the natural conclusion). around 1933-1934 enough power was collected to go forward with their agenda of fascism and morphed into a far-right government under the 2-wing model.
Its hard to have empathy when the game punishes you for practicing it. Empathy has to be nurtured and indulging in pvp games for your own greed kills that. You are not playing against AI, you are hurting other people here