DPS players still do not know how to peel. I recently got yelled at by a support that wanted me to peel her as tank… Sure, but then there is nobody to frontline and then the tank rolls on in.
Why has nobody learned by now that backline peel is literally now the dps’s job.
sorry can’t hear you over the sound of genji reaper dva lucio and moira diving the enemy backline
That’s the craziest part. A moira, or any other support in your backline should be hella easy for the midline dps to dominate.
The tank’s job is to protect their team. If you’re never finding time to protect your team when they need your help, you’re failing at your job.
You can abandon the frontline if it’s not going to instantly result in your team falling apart. If you help against the pest in your backline in and turn it into a 5v4, then hey that drastically increases your odds of taking back any space you lost and pushing further.
If you don’t help someone in trouble and it turns into a 4v5 when you could have possibly prevented that situation, you’ve failed at protecting your team because you’re about to lost the frontline anyways in all liklihood.
As with everything, it’s more complex a situation than can be described in a general way, but you gotta remember it’s your job tomake sure your team can do their jobs. Your job isn’t to hold the frontline, it’s to take and hold space for your team.
It’s not always your fault if your team falls apart obviously, but remember to recognize when it was your fault.
Not if their frontline can now collapse in on your turned around butt. That’s what we call a GG.
Again, it’s a nuanced problem. That will not always be the case, especially if you’re on attack or on your side of the map in a symmetrical game mode.
If you’re okay with blocking Soldier’s gun from hitting your team on the frontline, why are you okay with letting Tracer’s gun hit your team in the backline? What are you even doing at that point?
I’t not about what I’m ok with. I’m not even saying a tank should never peel. What I am saying is that if a tank is playing the objective and holding the frontline, the dps are responsible for doing what they cannot at that moment.
The alternative is we have 6v6, but we’ve already given that up.
interesting logic.
So SOmbra got nerfed and Widow got buffed.
How is this a backline needs peel issue ?
Is this your new way of crying we need to go back to 6v6 ?
What does any of this have to do with Sombra or Widow? Sombra, maybe I get.
Stop stirring the pot if you are going to do it so poorly.
Abandoning the objective for a small amount of time isn’t going to lose the game
You know what will? Letting your team die in situations you could have prevented it. You’re not holding space if you’re letting your team die in that space.
Just want to know who is hounding your backline ?
When literally your dps needs to be in their backline.
I don’t think you are listening. If they have a frontline, and you turn around, you die. Simple.
Like, this is gamesense 101.
Specifics dont really matter. Anyone? If your dps are unwilling to help a support that is being pressured by a flanker while you are maintaining a frontline, then there is nothing a tank can do.
No, not that simple
Gamesense 101 is realizing when you can afford to turn around if your presence is needed behind you
Never turning around and only ever looking forward is the opposite of gamesense, that’s playing like a bot in the training mode
And when you can’t? That is what im talking about. I never said never help the team int eh back.
When you can’t, then you can’t
But more often than not, you definitely can take a moment to gather your surroundings because the enemy team doesn’t have infinite resources to push with. Doubly so if you’re playing near cover like you should be doing the majority of the time.
I think what we are disagreeing on is whether it is “more often than not”. I’d say its a good 70% of the time that you CAN NOT turn around or you lose the fight.
Then you’re taking bad fights or standing in the wrong places. If you’re instantly dying the very moment you’re vulnerable, you deserve to die.
Like cmon now, gamesense 101 is knowing you’re not gonna die the moment you’re vulnerable, that way you can do more than turtle up
Sorry I just disagree. I think you are incorrect here. I guess conversation over?
Only of you stop replying. You’re sounding like you’re the kind of tank that sits in the middle of a Widow sightline and wondering why Widow keeps shooting you.
Or the tank that ignores the enemy Doomfist in your backline because if they can do that, you can do it too.
Bad planning, suboptimal gamesense, the works. What it sounds like anyway.
Deal. Blocking you now.