For pretext, I don’t have the best PC (or internet), neither am I currently able to get an upgrade, but I would still like to spend the free time I have playing games that I enjoy. However, often while I’m playing, there’ll be a lag spike or the “Your Rendenring Device Has Been Lost” message will pop up, and I literally am pulled away from the game against my will.
It’s happened more times than I can count where I’ll be mid game, one of the aforementioned things will happen, I’ll be pulled from the game against my will, and then receive the leaver punishment because of the matches I’ve also previously left, again, against my will.
There has to be a way to implement a system that checks to see if you actually hit the leave button yourself, or any buttons that prompt you to leave the match or if what happened was just an unexpected and unwanted crash, there has to be.
It’s hard to find levelheaded people on this forum. Most either want a slap on the wrist or crazy punishments for leaver penalties.
I think the best way to handle it is to remove all permanent bans for leaving. Blizzard should keep the current punishment system for suspensions if it’s working. Add a seasonal suspension to Quick Play as well just like Competitive Play.
If someone gets a seasonal suspension from Quick Play or Competitive Play, then they can go back to Arcade. Add a 6v6 Classic Overwatch 1 game mode to Arcade as well. Blizzard will get a lot of good feedback from these changes.
It sounds like you should not be playing team based online multiplayer games with your inconsistent equipment. Play FFA or custom modes if you absolutely have to play OW, otherwise you really should just stick to offline games or non-team based games where your consistency, presence, and commitment to the match does not affect your teammates.
Do you not realize that quick play is unranked and just for fun? If someone wants to go for torb hammer only kills or rein no shield challenge then let them. Why make a casual mode sweaty when you dont gain or lose anything?
If you want to care and take it seriously theres a mode for you called competitive. If you want to take it seriously then click on the little picture of winston.
Suspension for any more than 10 or 15 minutes from a casual mode is just stupid, and instead of punishing the leavers they should try and work on solving the problems of why people leave
You agreed to the game’s terms of service → the terms of service say you can’t leave matches in progress → you get punished for leaving matches in progress → you conplain about the consequences of your actions.
That’s why they already have leniency built in. The short requeue lock is meant to tell you that you should probably fix what’s causing your issue before continuing to play. The longer penalties are for people who want to keep burning their hands on the stove.
You’re also leaving 9 other people’s games against their will. We deserve to have consistent teammates, or at least teammates who are in some way trying to win/help. Why does your wants /desires matter more than other people’s, especially 9 of them?
Your situation sucks and my heart goes out to you, but as others have commented, don’t play the main modes if you know you’re just gonna crash/disconnect. You can play custom modes, solo modes, and probably arcade modes. In OW1 unraked the game used to let you reconnect into the same match if you were gone for a short amount of time (which was beneficial to me, personally), they’ve removed that.
I will agree with you that it’s a gigantic bummer and wish your PC/connection worked better, too. But I don’t agree you should be afforded the privilege of ruining countless games for a countless number of people just for your specific problem.
Hopefully that was gentle enough and you’re mature enough to understand.
Though I generally agree and people should be punished for clicking, they would change their behaviour to closing the application, disconnecting their internet, or using airplane mode to leave games instead of clicking; you wouldn’t be able to tell who did what. So it’d be pointless.
The lag spike is about your internet connection. Maybe you play with Wifi? try switching to cable, it’s way better, and a “must have” if you are going to play multiplayer games. If you have cable, idk, maybe the pins of the cable are faulty or something like that. Maybe its about your ping = the distance between your PC and the server, if you live long enough you will have bad ping (about 180-200 ping) and that causes your “lag”.
The “Your Rendenring Device Has Been Lost”, I’ve read that its about with your hardware, mostly the GPU, and some people said that updating drivers solves the issue. If you have Nvidia GPU, you can install Gforce experience and it auto downloads your drivers.
With our current technology, theres no way for OW or any other game to “know” if you really had a disconnection cuz bad internet or you just unpluged it on purpose cuz u were about to lose or something. And honestly, I dont really see a way on the future, unless you literally record you gaming or something as proof.
If you already know you have bad internet connection or hardware problems, you should first try to solve them instead of just playing multiplayer games, cuz that is an issue for the other 9 players that are in the server. Everyone can have emergencies or pc crashes, both happen to me somtimes, but not enough in order to trigger the penalties.
You have to leave 6+ of your last 20 games to get more than a 10 minute suspension. I understand it’s probably feels unfair, but leaving every other game is disruptive even for quick play.
Blizzard will not revert the leaver penalties no matter how many people ask for it. I remember reading the blog news update where Aaron said they’re satisfied with the results. The only thing that can happen now is refining the punishment system.
Ideally, nobody should be leaving so many matches consistently. Only problem now is a permanent ban because that’s overkill for a leaver penalty. Players shouldn’t get permanently banned from being reported for leaving or receiving multiple seasonal suspensions. Anyone that quits more than half their matches should definitely get a seasonal suspension.
Blizzard improving their balance and matchmaking to the point most players are satisfied is in the same realm of possibility of me becoming a millionaire.
I could say the same for smurfs and alt accounts which is considered cheating by their same TOS. But they like to pick and choose what they enforce sadly.
If any of the law enforcement departments in the four different states I’ve lived in had the raw manpower to nail every single bad driver, I would have never encountered so many goons on the road. But the reality is, they can’t catch enough of them to scare the rest into behaving. Same with the smurfing in OW.
2-minute suspension = If you leave 2 to 3 games out of 20
10-minute suspension = If you leave 4 to 5 games out of 20
2-hour suspension = If you leave 6 to 9 games out of 20
48-hour suspension = If you leave 10 or more games out of 20
I’ve played a lot of OW2 with terrible internet. I’ve been booted several times because my internet crapped out. So I sympathise wholeheartedly with your annoyance, but these leaver penalties seem perfectly fair, I think.
It’s a team game. If you can’t pull your weight, you need to either fix your internet, or play a different game (for now). It’s very unfair on everyone else in your team, who has to deal with your laggy play and unintentional leaving. Even in quickplay, if you’re constantly leaving games or lagging, you making the match unfun for everyone else - whether you’re doing it on purpose or no. I sympathise with your frustration, but that’s just not fair on everyone else.
When I realised my internet was so bad that I was abandoning matches repeatedly, I stopped playing until we swapped our internet over. It’s just good manners, innit?
Realistically, you’ll probably face a 2 hour suspension, tops, with bad internet. It sucks that you’re getting penalised for something outside of your control, but that’s just how it is. Leavers need to be penalised, and frankly, if you’re making the game unfun for people with your own accidental leaving, then that should be penalised to some degree, too. If you earn a 48 hour suspension, you REALLY shouldn’t be playing this game lmao. Be reasonable.
Ideally, there should be a way for Blizzard to see whether you actively CHOSE to leave a match, or if something outside of your control happened (eg: power cut / internet problems / server issues). I imagine even that would probably prevent a lot of leavers from pulling the plug on their computers/ps4s or crashing the game to escape matches, because they’d wind up messing up their devices doing that too much, and they’ll have to go through the rigmarole of waiting for the game to boot up again. It’s too tedious to do more than once or twice a day, surely?