I don’t mind his monster heal capacity or his dmg output. It’s his stupid lamp that has bothered me since day one of his introduction. It’s such a basic ability yet so powerful, in certain situations more powerful than lucio/zen ultimates. That ability needs to be replaced or reworked.
Just shoot it. Bait it. Displace people out of it. It’s the most overvalued ability in this game
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Agreed. I force Baptiste to selfishly use it in 1 v 1s and get his team killed.
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I do that without needing to be baited.
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It forces everyone to group up on minimum health. I can’t count the amount of times as Moira I’ve gotten almost team kills with my ult because of the field.
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Keeping pressure on him and his team will usually bait it out early.
Otherwise you’ve got abilites that can disable it, destroy it or knock the people out of it.
It’s fair for the cooldown it has.
I can’t tell if this is a joke or not lol.
It is. It’s not by any means weak, but it’s blown out of proportion more than any ability I’ve seen besides maybe DM
People see “immortality” in the name and forget its tiny radius, LOS checks, big cooldown, and the fact that if it’s preventing deaths, it’s keeping people at a sliver of health
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Ironically when you play Baptiste the field gets shredded so fast it seems almost worthless - even when placed behind cover.
And try using it against a Reaper ult – he shreds the field and still gets your team.
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Tragically happened to me yesterday. I really thought I was That Badass and then the IF just dies before i get out of death blossoms radius lol
I should have thrown it slightly behind me. But you can’t always react like that lol
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It’s a bog-standard, practical ability that’s effective, can be easily countered, let’s most DPS actually compete against Snipers, and best of all, isn’t an Ultimate ability.
Yeah no, the game could use more things like it.
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Ever since the health got nerfed, I’ve rarely seen it last longer than a second, if that. Just shoot it. Bonus points if you kill everyone who stood under it because the lamp still leaves them with a sliver of health. If it weren’t for the lamp, they would not have been conveniently grouped up with low health for a team wipe, yes? So the lamp can lead into your advantage.
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I still hard disagree with that. I could have a different idea of what you consider “overrated”, but not many abilities are consistently as impactful as Bap’s immortal field from a good Bap. It requires more awareness, both on the part of the team (staying in it and protecting it) and of the Bap (timing it and placing it), than almost any other ability though. I can see it being overrated in lower ranks relative to that though. Immo field in GM is no joke whatsoever. I would not say that’s overrated in the slightest.
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Lower ranks? More like the entirety of the forums. People see the word immortality and freak out. That’s literally it. Send tweet.
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That or Hack. No one overvalues Hack like Sombra haters.
The only part that i really don’t like about it, is that it’s another ability that can completely negate a Bastion in one single moment.
If it’s behind cover, you’re dead.
Not “Just get up and reposition” Nope. No time to move, you’re dead.
So… how can you overvalue an ability that literally makes people unkillable?
Its 100% why I pick Baptiste vs Bastion. I put that sucker behind cover and suddenly your whole “high damage but no movement” playstyle ain’t working.
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Don’t ya love that… another hero who can just say “Oh no, where’s my delete Bastion button”
If Bastion had it’s own shield though… Things might be different.
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Well for starters, I wouldn’t be able to kill you by myself. Not as Sigma either btw.
I’d take a Junkrat.