and broken by everyone that had to deal with it. Of course the Mercy community likes broken mechanics.
99% of the suggestions I have seen are so hilariously OP/broken there’s little point in discourse.
That hasn’t been my experience, unless you’re counting my posts.
Tatiana is also pretty good about coming up with ideas.
But really I’ve seen at best maybe 10 unique solutions in the last 3 months.
time for a lesson.
fun fact!
Mercy’s GA was never “too good” in OW1.
if its an issue in OW2…revert it.
an extreme minority even wanted it changed (likely less than 1% of anyone who plays her & most were fine with it in OW1) when it was fine as is.
“but my vertical jump” you say? So what? in OW1 how often did it actually get used for anything but to have fun/show off?
You barely saw it even in top tier play.
Why should Mercy (yet again) have her kit wrecked instead of doing the simple answer and reverting to a known working point?
How to fix Mercy healthily:
- revert to OW1 GA (it was fine)
- swap valk (nerfed duration ofc & maybe only have branching go to 1 or 2 near targets not everyone) with rez (valk is a glorified cd and rez should of always been ult)
- Devs need to actually sit down and modernize the damage amp mechanic (not just mercy’s beam the actual core mechanic that is dmg amp) to not benefit the high per shot heroes (this is only reason its an issue and those heroes DO NOT need the help)
bonus: Disable amp & crit mods from double dipping (should only take 1 or other not both)
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People wine about Widowmaker having a one shot. Lw having a pull, kiriko having a cleanse. If a hero doesn’t have something that bothers you they are boring and trash.
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People whine about everything, I didn’t say people whining mattered.
Mercy has not been as awful to deal with since Moth meta. The healing was too much; this feedback came from all over the place INCLUDING a lot of high rank Mercy players. But of course you want your broken training wheel mechanics back.
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Of course it felt awful, they gutted her mobility and that healing was compensation for losing it. Now she has neither of them.
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Yeah go figure. Forum peeps arent game devs. I think GreyFalcons entire point of “well the community needs to drop some hot ideas” is stupid as hell.
It is up to the devs to balance and maintain fun not the community. Its a really garbage argument.
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You just want to swap one broken mechanic for another.
The healing was busted, no cooldown, no player interaction. Just mindless like everything else in her kit. The only comparable heal is Bap’s regen and it’s on a LONG CD + requires manual activation; you have to pay attention and note when you/others are in that critical range the game doesn’t do it for you; Bap has to do this while aiming and doing a host of other things Mercy players need not be concerned with. If they gave Mercy an activatable ability that had a REASONABLE cooldown and required some thought this would have been received so much better. How you can think just getting unlimited ramped up healing because your target is low hp is fair/balanced is mind blasting
1.5S GA with super jump / slingshot is too much mobility. It’s not fair to expect anyone to re-train their aim every 0.75-1s on a target with a tiny hitbox that regenerates the second you miss a shot. The hero needs to be punishable and some thought towards proper positioning instead of constantly flying around is not unreasonable.
Agreed, but the vitriol is heavily rooted in things like:
- we didn’t ask for these changes
- if you only listened to what we said
- you can’t touch GA it’s super duper fun
all out to lunch with reality. S1/S2 GA/SJ wasn’t balanced and neither was the crit healing. But it’s ohhhh they nerfed GA worse AND took away the crit healing.
yes - they were both objectively broken, the devs are 100% at fault for leaving it in for TWO seasons and really should be way faster with balance updates.
So than bloody give her something so it’s more interesting and not mindless. O yeah they tried that, and you people lost their collective minds over it.
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to what are you referring?
The critical healing, maybe give her what you said in a cd that’s on her reload so she can burst her healing. Make it so valk isn’t an auto pilot ultimate that’s excessively boring due to its simplicity, but no, we just want op abilities that are easy training wheels. Take your bias else where.
The fact you won’t have omnimovement on slingshot and old superjump being a tech people can’t really pull off until high gold, and don’t really start understanding how to use consistently and correctly until diamond.
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I mean saying it’s out of touch with reality is a bit much and quite frankly the Mercy players are ENTIRELY justified in saying “We didn’t ask for these changes” as they at NO point asked for the new omnidirectional slingshot.
It was literally just something blizzard added in for no good reason and now all Mercy mains have to suffer for a change they never asked for, made by a team that has no grasp on how their players play the character, based on a concept that they do not themselves understand (That’s the Triage bit).
All ontop of it ruining the singular fun aspect in the entire characters kit and also it’s a change happening on a character that never ever seems to just be allowed to… settle. Every other patch has to completely change how Mercy feels/functions in play and the resentment born from that is entirely justified.
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I honestly think there isn’t a team member that has played mercy more than once since they created her 7 years ago.
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No, but simultaneously their ideas are almost all awful. That is what I meant by out of touch with reality. They bemoan losing broken mechanics while suggesting more broken mechanics.
I’ll agree here. Soon as I saw Mercy’s movement tech was added to a button, that can be activated at any time instead of requiring timing and at least some coordination to pull off the problem it was going to cause was obvious.
You now have silver Mercy players super jumping with every single GA. Silver players can’t aim up; it’s one of the things keeping Genji from getting buffs.
Yeah, they shouldn’t have started her off with the over hyped movement. That was a mistake they have been trying to unravel for awhile now.
Sure, but again. Forum people. What are you gonna do? lol
This would be perfectly fine if it was just… Old slingshot. That is at least a very predictable path and you can deal with that. It is exclusively the omnidirectional movement that breaks Mercsys 1.5 second GA. And that is Blizzards fault and Mercy players have to suffer for it.
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I knew the moment they made mercy movement in OW2 she was going to get butchered. They just need to revert to OW1 mercy. But apperently revert is a bad word, unless it’s reverting her crit heal.
I swear Mercy players will never be satisfied until Mercy is the only support worth picking.
Every day there’s another thread about her. Any change is met with hate, and the people who main her, usually are toxic.
Stop acting like the devs read these forums, you’re shouting into the void.
The GA cooldown has literally incentivized me for the first time ever in my years of playing Mercy to actually hide behind walls and pocket… which I hate. I can’t bring myself to sit in the back because it feels dirty to me but if there was ever a time when hiding and pocketing made sense… it’s now.
I remember back in the OW1 days a lot of the Mercy controversy was spun up about some players abusing that play style (which actually was the trigger for her changes for years to come). So why change her in a way that makes that play style a more viable strategy?
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Yeah they really messed her up. Baffles me how this went live.
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