I think I’m really confused about what you’re trying to say…
Apparently forced 50/50 only applies for non-DPS heroes, so I think the implication is he duo’d with a DPS player? IDK…
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im trying to say you belong in the elo your in if your losing half your games
People are conflating two things. The game doesn’t force a 50% win rate. It finds two teams with as close of mmr as possible. The closer you get to your true mmr, the closer you will get to a 50% win rate.
Also, just because someone is better than you or is worse than you doesn’t mean that they are a smurf or a thrower respectively.
I like how you think that anyone that has above a 50% win rate has to either be getting carried or a dps player. I had a friend get roughly a 90% win rate on rein and Winston to GM on an account. He is currently like a 4.1k-4.2k player aswell.
You can also check forgiving’s unranked to GM reinhardt series(Forgiving had roughly a 75% winrate to GM I believe) or bogur’s
unranked to GM winston series(Not completed but he has an 80% winrate, 40W 10L and is at 3924sr.)
If you want to climb, you just have to improve. Improving can be difficult at times though. So, if you or anyone else wants coaching, you can refer back to this post which I made and submit a link to a vod or add my discord: Jamal#3200.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/coaching-tank-players
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Yes but that’s not a forced 50% winrate. I think you may misunderstand what OP and people like him are claiming. Their claim is that they can’t climb because no matter how good they get the matchmaker is rigged and working against you to ensure you never win more than half of your matches.
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so you admit that you were throwing…?
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and according to your logic, there shouldnt harder games as your rank up, am i getting this correct?
No, incorrect. Their claims is that the game purposely rigs matches and forces losses, not that you naturally settle at your skill level. For example, if you’ve won 3 games in a row, the matchmaker will now force you to lose the next three by pairing you with significantly worse players to ensure you cannot win.
Again, Winston isnt a DPS. You cant honestly say you got those wins alone when his damage is garbage, Tanks & Healers keep getting nerfed & barriers are dying(which means less shield hopping for Winston).
If the player plays QP exactly like its Comp, plays far higher than their account seems, they’re Smurfs.
But the thrower thing, I got a new perspective on that now.
It really is just one or the other.
The non-DPS characters cant do anything alone as long as Blizzard makes them more & more unplayable.
Im not talking about Comp. But if that happened in any recent season, then your friend had help too. Tanks are team-reliant, Winston & most definitely Rein arent going anywhere in Comp without good healers backing them.
No you dont. You just have to go DPS, and thats it. DPS will never get nerfs across the board, meaning non-DPS characters will never carry & win solo.
Are you trying to suggest that being able to deal damage is the only important aspect of the game and the sole determining factor of whether you can win a game?
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i solo queued them all
http s://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/mmmMonki-2611
this is the account, not even good stats just went for a very carry heavy style, hence why my final blows and melee kills are very high and damage very low, if you actually think dps is the only role that can carry you dont understand the game at a fundamental level, dps has the least impact in the game out of any role unless the meta is double sniper
edit: i didnt know this but theres a hidden stat page, where one of the stats is one night friendship that i assume shows if you duo with someone for 1 time, weird the stats overbuff has, even has deaths due to lag
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ok, and why can good players go from bronze to gm easily if thats the case? dont give me a paragraph
That’s the reason for the high amount of leavers recently
Ask OP.
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https://www.overbuff.com/players/pc/Fate-13528?mode=competitive
I have a 58% winnrate(haven’t played in a month due to school though.) What other proof do you need? I’m not even good at the game. Forced 50/50 doesn’t exist, stop blaming your teammates and focus on improving yourself.
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Uhm… because the matchmaker isnt rigged and forced 50/50 isn’t a thing? I’m very confused about your interpretation of my posts.
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It isn’t even a forced 50/50. Almost every time I play I get matched with low levels and usually lose. My ratio out of 10 games is usually win 2 and lose 10. A lot of dps mains will say that I am just bad but even if I was bad why am I matched with new players? Its simple overwatch just has no matchmaking and they don’t care enough to fix it. I am pretty good at the game but it is just determined by who has the worst team at this point.
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it… sounds like he thinks you’re arguing OP’s point… not explaining it.
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I’m currently leveling an alt right now (support only) just to see where I’d place in comp.
I started getting paired with silver, plat, and high gold players 5 matches in. One match i had a low plat dps (he was a jerk btw and d picked on me for bad heals even though I was gold on Lucio) and a low silver support in a game
Is it because they think my mmr is actually around that rank, or is it bad match making.
I feel bad for real new players, I’m a high silver normally and in QP I get paired with obvious new accnts. Like ppl playing Ana who can barely shoot the team roadhog, Moira’s that don’t know fade, and even Junkrats who can barely shoot a tank.
Like, why am I paired with them in QP?
Only thing I do know, medals go towards EXP. So is the medal system the one judging the MMR?
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