Look we all know that there’s essentially 50/50 win rate, losers queue and winners queue, pre-determined matchmaking, etc…etc. (comp or qp)
So at that point that you know the game is going to be a loss no matter how much blood, sweat and tears you pour into the match, do you still try to win?
And I’m not talking like it’s the last minute of the match and you know you’ve lost, or the losing the first team fight. I’m referring to that mid match game that you think to yourself “there’s no way we are winning this, I’ve tried everything.”
Do you:
Still try the same amount as when you started the match, no change?
Still somewhat try but you give up putting effort in? “It is what it is.” Soft throw, maybe you choose a hero you’re not good with, or play funny, etc?
Hard throw: You’ve given up completely, jumping off the map, intentionally feeding, going afk, profanity in chat, etc (reportable actions) ?
Be honest too, I wanna see what people think. (Me personally I fit into that middle column).
We absolutely do not know that there’s a losers queue or winner queue.
Matchmaking tries to make even matches. You know what even matches create? A 50/50 win rate. Unless you’re better than the rank it thinks you are, in which case it’ll go higher.
I try harder. Because it’s never a complete loss.
I remember back when I was a diamond 5 tank on a slow night I queued into a gm lobby with 3 top 500 players in it.
We were on lijang, lost first point (holy crap they play so much faster than Diamond does, was struggling to keep up), we were all having a laugh, won second point with the help of our top500 giving me some advice, and then on third point we had a leaver. One of our dps (who was one of the gms), left.
We all had a laugh about it (“Nooooooo, I never got to tell him I loved him!” from the guy he was duoing with.) and continued playing. And proceeded to roll the enemy team. Despite everything pointing to a loss.
The second you give up and stop trying because you don’t think it is winnable, you are making it unwinnable.
I am sick and tired of people playing a relatively even match that has a few crucial fights not go their way sitting there and going “We’ll never win the matchmaker is rigged.” when the enemy team isn’t playing better than them, they just won a fight or two for capturing a point.
That’s me most of the time. If I don’t put any effort in there’s probably something going on, like our team hasn’t got a single kill and the game is soon about to end. In which case I just go through the motions without really trying until the timer finally runs out.
Sort of. I’m not exactly trying my hardest to begin with by picking sub-optimal heroes, and I’m just there to have fun primarily, but I do always play to win, even if my team has fully given up or we have leavers or whatever.
There’s never a need to try. The outcome of every match is pre-determined by the matchmaker. It puts the best 5 players on one team and the worst 5 players on the other team. Every. Single. Time. The matchmaker is literally designed to produce complete and utter steamroll wins. Every. Single. Game.
The team that was pre-determined to lose can’t even get out of spawn and the team that was pre-determined to win can’t even be damaged, much less killed.
If your team is pre-determined to win, you literally don’t even need to leave spawn to win. Nothing on this Earth can prevent your win.
So do I try in any game ever? No. Why would I? Nothing I do matters. Either my team was pre-determined to win or it wasn’t.
OP, I’m going to let you know ahead of time that Ethernyet’s posting gimmick is that he literally cannot win a game, and that’s he’s hoping you take his bait. Stay away from that hook!
I used to try no matter what. But then I learned that only gets me another game in a carry slot with more potatoes on my team. So now I try to play like a potato and hope to get put in a potato slot for my next game.
We all know that conspiracy theorists think that everyone should agree with them but I assure you, we don’t. As has already been pointed out, if the MM is working correctly then, once you reach your correct rank, you should tend towards a 50/50 win rate. That is perfectly normal and expected. Why would they need a winner and loser queue to achieve what should happen naturally.
Is that you IsonFire on an alt or just some other rigging conspiracy numpty?
On an alt yes, on an alt of whose main posts here often, no. The forums are… The forums, I come here seldomly, but I feel like you are getting too mixed up in the first sentence and not actually reading the whole post or providing meaningful discussion.
I did not come here to discuss conspiracy theories otherwise I would have made a post specifically for that, but it is what I believe in, and it has pretty much stayed the same, even in overwatch 1… But the matchmaking was better.
I’ve played so many games where i thought that we would probably lose but finally won that i know that everything is always possible.
I’ll personnaly NEVER stop trying to do my best to win.The hardest it seems to be the hardest i will try.
The fact that you say you’re in the middle columm shows that you are a big part in the fact that your team loses and that you think that things aren’t possible.This is a vicious circle:you think you will lose,stop really trying then lose . So the next time,you’ll think even more that trying is useless because the last time you didn’t reaaly tried,lost etc.
I’d say you’re the main reason of your team loses.
I never want you in my team.
100% I came to play, I’m going to play. Winning or losing the individual match doesn’t matter; playing and getting better is what matters, and you only get better by trying.
No. No, we don’t. None of these actually exist; they’re all myths that metal rank players with oversized egos use to delude themselves and excuse their lack of skill.
“Loser’s queue” has less to do with the matchmaker and more to do with your paper-thin mental shattering into a billion pieces when you lose the first fight.
Q: Do you deliberately place players into winner queues and loser queues?
A: There are no winner or loser queues in Overwatch. Your current MMR is the only thing the matchmaker takes into consideration when forming your matches. The matchmaker doesn’t force a 50% win rate on anyone, nor do we favor certain players over others.
The explanation for things like win streaks and steamrolls is much simpler: OW is a very nuanced game where hero picks (counter picking) and map choice largely dominate the performance of the game. A single good hero pick or a single good play by one player can determine the course of the game.
You can find basic proof of this in things like OWL where you can have a literal one sided stomp going 3-0, and then the next map vs the exact same teams is a reverse stomp 0-3.
Other times it’s just bad matchmaking. Dont attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity (or in this case, the shortcomings of the matchmaker). The matchmaker is a probability device written by humans. It is flawed. Sometimes it will make bad decisions. There are also a lot of people in the game acting as smurfs, or people who are boosted, or people who one trick playing against someone willing to counter pick them. People can have a bad day and be on tilt, or be drunk, or just have a good day. Diet and exercise can change a person’s performance on a day to day basis. There’s a lot of factors that a computer cannot predict or know. That’s basically all there is to it.
