Brigitte shield bash because I’m moving the payload like a good tank, and she’s contesting like a good defense player. (1s)
Ana sleep because shield down by shield bash. (5.5s)
long nap , can’t do anything. Watching team get torn apart by hitscan.
get up ready to kill.
Stunned by shield bash again because sleep duration is so long. (1s)
Stunned again by McCree when previous stun comes off thrown over shield before i can block it. (.7s)
In total, i lost control of my character for 8.2 seconds. I couldn’t do anything. I couldn’t use an ability, i couldn’t shield through it, I had NO counter play. I had to just take it.
This is not fun, nor fair. Please, please help Rein. I am paper now.
Since release, we’ve added the following CC/Shutdowns.
Ana Sleep.
Sombra Hack.
Orisa Pull.
Doomfist Punch.
Doomfist Upper Cut.
Brigitte Stun.
Brigitte Boop.
Gave junk another Mine.
Gave Lucio vertical boop.
Meanwhile Rein has nothing to counter these. Everything but sleep, hack and Brigitte boop(?) goes through(or over in the case of junk mine) our shields. EVERYTHING.
Solution 1. After holding up shield for 1 second, shield becomes a physical object to enemy team, player models and abilities can no longer pass through.
Solution 2. For every 2 seconds rein holds up his shield, he gains a stack of stun resistance while maintaining his shield. This can stack twice. Resets when shield drops or is broken. It would stop 1 form of CC then be consumed.
There are rounds where I spend more time flying through the air with Rein then I do when I play Mercy thanks to things you listed and others like lucio boops, junkrat boops, Dva boops and pharah boops oh and not to forget the Roadhog boops with his ult and hook while you are stunned.
Solution 1 would be too powerful at clip blocking. IE shutting down a path by having your shield clip through a wall.
Solution 2 would be very nice. It would help with CC issues, if it had a UI indication that would be even better.
An extremely common issue is going to be Brigitte stun into roadhog hook. There’s nothing Rein will be able to do, i’m specifically talking about hanamura first CP.
I do wish they would give at least Rein some resistance to these things. For instance, when he is charging, I am sorry, but I do not imagine all of that big, hulking, momentum is suddenly stopped by a sleepy time drug. I also think maybe charge should be allowed to use against Brigitte like a mutual stun such as what happens when two reins charge at each other. Then this way Brigitte keeps her bashy bashy if they would like but Rein is a little more usable.
The McCree flashbang just over the shield sucks as well. I said before Brigette was released or even mentioned as an upcoming hero that Rein needed a pushback for his shield even if it didn’t do a stun or damage just to help him with some CC so instead they give a hard stun and damage to a new character leaving Rein in a rut.
The only issue with this is counter play. Removing CC on a charging Rein means you are removing the ability to save a pinned teammate. A lot of people won’t go for it, and honestly it’s understandable.
What SHOULD happen, however, is the Rein is stopped, but doesn’t take the CC effect. Ana’s sleep dart would cancel his movement, but not sleep him. But that’s my 2 cents
The thing about McCree stun, and why i am kinda okay with it, is because McCree doesn’t have a 600 health shield he can use to walk up to you. He risks being that close and in an open space to get shot. Sure, it works well on some chokes, but for others it would mean his death. Brigitte doesn’t have that squishyness, and doesn’t have to worry about it.
Additionally, Brigitte doesn’t have to drop shield to stun you. She can do it with shield up, so she doesn’t risk dropping and getting shot before the stun goes off.
Additionally, they should add a cancel charge option. I know, every hero is starting to get a cancel option, but Rein really needs some more movement options.
A hail marry charge into no mans land is not the best game design. Letting Rein charge off a cliff to their death accidentally because THEY GOT F*CKING BOOPED, isn’t very fair either.
Imagine how much more intimidating it would make him due to the uncertainty of if he will or won’t complete the charge, it could totally break a choke point and leave him alive.
If you’re going to talk about Rein being in a bad spot (which I absolutely agree with) then I wouldn’t do it by talking about heroes like Ana and McCree, they are just as bad.
It does feel a bit like being in a pinball machine at the moment, Reins shield just isn’t as good as it once was.
This would let Rein stop charging a Bubbled hero, which would remove feeding the zarya.
It would let Rien boop people out of a choke, because if he hits any one they get knocked back.
On places such as illios, you can pin drop (fun name) people into a well, or off a cliff without worrying about killing yourself.
It leaves Rein open to a lot of options.
The ana isn’t the problem per se, the issue is that CC opens him up to even more CC.
Ana was added after McCree. Before any of the new heroes Rein only had to worry about McCree Stun. Everything else was a boop, but it wouldn’t drop his shield. Right now, every stun is starting to chain together into a giant pile of unfun. Stripping away control from the player is NOT something that should be taken lightly in game design, yet every hero we got, except for Moira, has a form of CC. It merely compounds on each other.
Also, this actually happened, it’s not a hypothetical. I’m not picking on any hero, just what happened to me on Eichenwalde
I understand how you feel, most tanks have been suffering, but Rein most of all. I would just rather focus on fixing Rein then saying that all this CC is a problem. Giving the heroes that are most vulnerable to CC a way to counter it would be nice. Even making Reins shield curved would give him less angles to worry about.
What you described happens to me a lot after Brigitte was added to the game. Before it was only Mccree and it’s easy to block his stun by looking up with your shield. Now what happens is Brigitte stuns me then I get hooked/slept/hacked immediately.