The latest patch notes have convinced me that some of you dont know what a sniper is

BY video game standards across the board from a good portion of MAINSTREAM TRIPLE A titles. She is a VERY weak sniperto play, with and against.

The majority of these changes seam like they are coming from QUICKPLAY groups COMPLAINING about her. The only reason why it is such an issue is; the players that don’t understand she CAN easily be countered just like any other hero in this game. But because people don’t want to learn how to play the game. They seed the forums with massive complaints and then blizzard eventually has to come in and do something just to appease the loudest of masses.

Just like they created “ROLE JAIL” since nobody wanted to simply SWITCH heroes to play seemingly “normal” matches.

You need to play some cs 1.6 with awp to let your statement fade away. Game didnt changed for 20 years and ppl are happy. Anyway, compare ow with other games is a bad idea to reveal actual truth. As much as I hate widow, all her recent nerfs was just overkill. Hero is very aim intense in a world of infinent mobility. 175 hp widow means they need to revert hook back to 8s + revert scope charge, this would be actual cost.

Yea but u need to be closer and it takes a flat second of standing still I tested it. U can run past them very close without triggering them

Well, It’s her only means of mobility and her health has been cut by 1/8 so I think 2 seconds off would be justified.

So your saying that making her weak against dive is wrong and sorry what

No, it really doesn’t. Mine has the same trigger range on Invis Sombra as any other character in game.

You are really good at being funny.

Its funny cause Hanzo has almost everyone of those drawbacks and widow has none. if they gave widow crosshair shake after firing a powered up shot that could be a decent start and with soldiers recent changes we see theyre starting to value large changes again so they could do that on an expiremental card or something.

She is the most op hero in high ranks, by far.
This nerf is really deserved. And people wanted the same hp as Tracer, well she will have a little bit more.

But I wonder if she will be viable in low ranks and console…

As a former Orisa main I can’t imagine what that would feel like :rofl:

I was in a match on experimental with a incredible widowmaker with a golden gun and she absolutely wiped the floor with us. (of course we still won cuz the rest of her team were terrible) but thats not my point. The point is, widowmaker is still a beast at long range combat.

Oh you mean the same gun that does 65-130dps compared to Mcrees 70-140dps. Granted Windows has a bit of spread but neither would anyone want to fight widow at a distance either and characters like Winston dva and reaper have big hit boxes.

Come on, man. Anyone’s who has ever dueled a Widow at close range with her SMG knows it’s hilarious garbage. Hell, the really problematic Widows don’t even use it, they somehow headshot you with the scoped shot at close range even if you dodge.

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Idk how you justify it as garbage when it does only 5-10 less dps than Mcree who can’t even scope and is not a sniper. It wouldn’t matter if the Widows you know of suck with it, statistically it’s dps is still pretty good for a sniper. As for your second point of close range sniping, I’ve also seen that done but now I’m confused if your arguing for widow,against her, or no side at all.

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Funny how you forgot flinching, and not being mobile in that list which most those have besides OW. Lets add huge hitbox category as well and give a big check for OW. This list also leaves out some of the sniping games that do share the harder sniping mechanics like planetside 2 and battlefield. Anyone can post a skewed data table leaving out categories and games to prove a point

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More than that, they are assuming that all of the issues are the same weighting, and they are missing “generous head hitbox”, which makes sniping in OW a lot easier.

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flinching is aim punch

Overwatch doesnt have that ans its checked…

in which case aim punching on the chart is wrong. Since widow doesn’t flinch to any reasonable degree.

Like, other games have her flinching a lot, and overwatch it is the tinest bob.

Shouldn’t be ticked.

She CAN also quickscope for all the good it does her :slight_smile: - I can see why it is unchecked :slight_smile:

She also recenters.