it’s that simple, it’s not a question of balance, counterplay, map design, or whatever, the game just is not fun when this character is present
you’ll hate me then since im either widow, sombra or moira most of the time
good luck
Whaddya mean OP? Its cool. I can still play. I’m just gonna look around this corner, and…
head clicked
Okay I see what you mean
She’s so easy to take out. You can even spawncamp her for the rest of the game after.
yeah and spending the entire game babysitting her isn’t fun
OW2 has a lot of unfun characters.
Sombra, Mei, Pharah, Junkrat, Hanzo, Bastion, Genji, Symmetra, Doomfist, Ball, Roadhog, Orisa, Mercy, Moira.
It’s kind of part of OW2 unfortunately.
Good news is Widow is very counterable.
Can you just queue support ty
I like my free kills on Moiras
Widows core design was for 6v6 open queue and never got appropriately reworked when role queue went live. The problems only got worse with the switch to 5v5. How she was never first on the list of reworks is beyond me
im not that kind of moira lol. although when im not moira i see a lot of them die 10+ times. it boggles my mind
I mean, it’s fun for the widow.
Now that she’s a bit less prevalent (at least in my, admittedly low, skill level), I am back to being neutral on her. She really hammers home the need to take cover, which is not a bad skill to learn.
For a while, she was in every single game, and it was way, way, way too much. In general, the only time I get really annoyed at a character is when they show up in every match. Currently, Sombra and Bastion hold that crown in my world, but Tracer’s almost there.
I’ll never get this. What isn’t fun about helping out your team in a team game?
I disagree, Widow mirrors are more boring than playing Widow into full dive.
I mean I love playing widow into widow. It always blows my mind though when I kill the enemy widow once and they immediately go sombra. Like you’re never gonna be good at widow if you can’t learn to take the duel.
It’s not Widow’s fault the devs lowered shield health, one less tank, and gave a sniper wider maps to have big advantage.
She’s like a lot of the ol school heroes made for 6v6 but dev changes gave her plenty of advantages that haven’t been addressed.
She’s still fun for me.
And I still have fun playing against her if I am using Ashe.
As a tank not so much, but once in a while it feels good bro corner peak spike a Widow to the wall with an Orisa spear
“The game is not fun when widowmaker is in the match”
One of the easies heroes to deal with, and simultaneously the least fun to deal with. Any hero that forces you to babysit them is simply poorly designed.
When Sombra started ambushing my Widow in PUG’s, I started playing Cass/McCree… basically a short-range sniper without the rifle charge time and very consistent damage output. And if you’re landing those head shots, many of the usual meta character become a lot easier to drop.
Back when Widow was in every game, I would go on insane journeys as Orisa into the enemy team backline just for the chance of maybe killing her. It’s a terrible way to play, probably made my team angry, and rarely worked, but those kills were so, so sweet.
I mean, it’s fun in isolation but your impact on the game is always lower by having to play around another Widow outside of when you have ult.
Bonus points if their Mercy saves every rez for them
I got the best SOLUTION for you.
SWITCH TO MONKEY.
Lowskill dive and ez kill her.
Or GO Diva , dive her and destroy her. She is easy to kill , her graple has a LONG cool down.
Thats how I feel about sombra and tracer lol