Title. This meta is genuinely one of the most agitating things to both play against, and also watch be played (regarding OWCS).
We went from a relatively? diverse meta where Winston was quite strong but many things were still playable, to a meta where there’s only a meaningless amount of variation in the comps you can play and they really all center around Double Flex (though Ashe is somewhat viable) / Ram or Dva / Juno
Personally I just find it oppressive, and it’s a complete slog to have it be completely hard meta and D.Va running through a speed ring to delete you, or Ram being unkillable with his armor is not a fun thing to play or witness.
Except for like a scant few times i history I think when Winston is meta, the game is overall much better, more things can be played, and it doesn’t feel as oppressive to play against.
Don’t get me wrong I have 400+ hours on D.Va so I enjoy when she’s strong but I don’t enjoy when it’s basically become “play her or lose”, yknow? The game is so much better when the meta is open which is usually the case when Winston is good.
And we can even see this in OWCS with how drastically the best team in the world for months just fell off because of how impossible the meta is to play around. If a team that was able to adapt to many a meta struggles against teams they’d normally dumpster, there is a problem.
Winston seems like he is in a pretty good spot right now. Anytime I try to run a sniper, I usually get a Winston bubble in my face. He’s hard to play into enemy Tanks, but he can wreck a backline like nobody’s business. Especially with the strength of Poke comps right now.
D. Va is just currently broken by the armor changes, missile buff, health nerfs, and speed ring. D. Va was fine before when she couldn’t delete the backline as easily and could be punished for diving in. You fix her, you fix armor, and you’ll see the tank lineup fix itself.
I mean for sure, but this is my point. There was a point not even a month ago where both Winston and D.Va and even Ball were all really playable and it didn’t feel as stagnant as it feels now
I don’t know why they didn’t nerf D. Va when they nerfed Winston, but they’re doing it next patch. Hopefully the armor changes will help a lot in that regard too.
Yeah, going from having a few viable tanks to one is definitely a big shift in stagnation. I just wish the balance team would have nerfed both of them… And armor.
They know Ram’s armor is bugged. There is no way that isn’t fixed as well next patch.
Winston is the most picked tank in the Top 500 right now. DVa is up there with him, but Winston actually is meta right now. Ram btw is not very popular in Top 500. You’re very wrong, factually.
I’m talking about OWCS. Ram and Dva are literally all that is played. OWCS is the highest level of play and therefore a sign of something deeply wrong with the meta as a whole. People are always going to play characters they enjoy but it doesn’t mean that Ram and Dva aren’t problematic.
Even outside of that, I didn’t say he was bad, I said irrelevant. You can be played but as a character he is simply outclassed by the other two and the fact that he is not even touched by the best players in the world shows it.
Winston is so braindead that I never play him on principle. I decided to play him yesterday for the first time in over a year, on Circuit no less, and pushed cart all the way to the middle of the last point. On a terrible Winston map, as a terrible Winston player. He’s broken and easy.
OWCS is completely irrelevant. Pro play is an entirely different thing. Too 500 ladder is also removed from a lot of players but at least it’s ranked play and more closely resembles the actual meta.
Do you know why DVa is seeing so much pro play? It’s Juno. Juno is completely busted in coordinated play. She’s not on ladder. Arguably she’s not even that good on ladder, but she’s a problem in the pro scene. Y’all complaining about owcs meta might inadvertently get Juno nerfed.
