This place used to be a place for debate and something vaguely resembling intellectual thought. Now every other post is by some tank or support main complaing about how DPS is easy, because they played soldier76 in quick play or gold/silver and killed a valking mercy that one time.
There are people on here that unironally think that dps is the most impactful and broken role in the game right now, with the argument that you just “kill people and don’t be killed”. Well I guess getting rich is easy too, because you just get money and don’t lose it.
DPS is such a useless role that they had to change the rules of the game to prevent people from never playing it and stomping people who do. AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY HAVE BEEN BUFFING SUPPORTS AND TANKS NON-STOP. And here we are with people who are so high on their own delusion that they think dps is broken.
At this point the fourms have gone from a place of debate to a psychological science experiement on bias and echochambers. Peace.
Let’s be honest here, you don’t want debate: that’s the very reason you’re leaving. It sounds more like you’re upset that people disagree with your one-sided opinions.
He presents it poorly, but you know, role queue was just as much about restricting tanks as it was forcing dps to have play time. It goes both ways. I share his opinion, albeit, a less extreme version. Dps being the least impactful does NOT mean they are useless. And there are exceptions. There are plenty of dps that are just as viable and arguably more so than certain tanks or supports.
And no offense intended, but most people saying DPS are overpowered tend to pick low skill floor ones and still rank much lower than on tank or support. Its just facts…
And if you express these to people, the responses you get are certainly interested. But I wouldn’t really call them unbiased.
There are definitely people like that, but that river flows two ways. For example, OP themselves lies on the exact opposite end of the spectrum they’re describing. They’re beating up on a strawman while serving as an example of one.
forums are dead because of skill deniers who cant argue so they mass false flag anyone who disagrees with their dumb takes. who wants to hang around arguing with the ow equivalent of flat earthers. reddit deals with these trolls better hence why the devs use it.
look at the post about ow has forgotten “inclusivity” for a prime example. their basic take is nerf anything i dont like and buff what i do like since i cba to improve myself. if you try and engage them they just shriek about Cod and cs go and then mass flag you. i call them skill deniers because like flat earthers they use garbage arguments like skill = cod/csgo and refuse to hear anything else.
There was a thread to this degree that popped up recently. I’d rather not post links but I can confirm it happened. It would be remiss of me not to mention the absolutely colossal amount of threads claiming the inverse for characters like Mercy, Moira, Brigitte, Orisa, and so forth. Again, it goes both ways but people choose to ignore whatever doesn’t benefit their narrative.
DPS really do feel weak comparatively(being the operative word) to me. I don’t know if it’s just me, but I start rolling on tank and I don’t even know why the other team shows up. On DPS I feel like I’m waiting for my tanks to push W.
It’s got to be a me thing, but give me Zarya any day for impact. Where’s my GOATS.
If you think people need to have a particular opinion to be open-minded and want debate, then what you actually want is for people to agree with your opinion. And to change their minds and view things your way after speaking with you.
A call for open minded debate shouldn’t be open with disparaging people who view the game differently than you do. And in fact, requires you to show a better understanding of the opposition than stereotypical representation of the way they view things even if you ultimately disagree.
Goats was played by a pretty limited range of people. It wasn’t even GM in general by the time role queue rolled around, only league and maybe top 500 were still that strict. A lot of folks moved onto Orisa comps which did include dps.
222 was about them realizing that the game was too hard to balance around so many different types of comp structures, and about not wanting any of the 3-4 dps in a match to have to play support if they didn’t want to.
I won’t deny there is threads that go both ways, but boy there is a lot of anti-DPS threads going around atm, it’s as bad as the anti-Brig threads when she was first released so I do get where OP is coming from, but I do think they’re approaching it the wrong way
I mean at the moment this place can be unbearable, I’ve made the mistake of saying a change “Wasn’t that bad” which equated to me supporting it to everyone else and caused me to get absolutely roasted as well as having people misinterpret me leaving me completely confused as to how they got to that point
coming from a 1 trick dps im not surprised to see you blame tanks and support…new flash though! YOU ARE THE PROBLEM JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER ENTITLED DPS!
