Cheating comes and goes in waves, you can easily follow this on certain websites that have forum boards and discord channels. I follow these so I know when to stop playing, as well as watching kill-cams, and right now I’ve stopped playing.The low-life cheat creators make a hack that works and countless people pay/download it and begin hacking.
So you have people at a certain tier who are hacking and playing far beyond their normal skill level which means they’ll be making every single match unfair/lopsided until they reach their new peak SR while aimbotting.
Then Blizzard patches the hacks so they no longer work. Now those people are going to downrank and screw every single match on their way back down to their low rank.
I wish Blizzard would invest greater efforts to make it almost impossible to hack. That means changing colors, outlines to players (or however it works) etc etc every week. And to any hackers reading this and wanting to post garbage like “I’ve played thousands of hours and never seen a hacker” or “there’s hardly any hacking” , save it. There are places on the internet where you can see countless people downloading, commenting and using these hacks so anyone who says such a thing is suspect for trying to cover up hacking IMO.
Can’t even play right now the hacking is so bad.
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like sharpeye, hate them, they charge 60 a month to help people cheat. undetected lol its soo easy to see them use the aimbot.
More like banwaves are coming.
Lol right? This dude comes in and blasts you for no reason. You didnt even say it happened to you, you just mentioned a crappy place that does this, and dude comes in (with the name Squirrel nonetheless haha) to just troll. And has a private profile to boot. Lol
Love this community to pieces. I’m not high ranked by any means, but I have friends who are bronze and really want to learn and love the game…then you have lovely people like…this guy.
Dont listen to the jerks man, keep doing you and keep trying to improve.
I didn’t mean to be rude, it’s just that there are too many low sr players that are quick to cry aimbot when it’s most likely a smurf.
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What SR do players start buying aimbots?
I wasn’t aware that the makers of the hacks required an SR check to ensure you are this high to ride.
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Sure there could be some in low ranks but they wouldn’t stay low for too long. Anyone can easily get to at least low diamond with just good mechanics, even if their game sense is trash.
So you agree they would be in low ranks, even if for only a short a while? Please never again insinuate that bronze has no cheats.
If you could also realise the most frustrated players will be in bronze, as well as a high number of those who DGAF and want to mess with aimbot, bronze is actually quite likely to see aimbots.
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nah, it’s more that players at very low SR stand 100% still when shooting and tend to run in very predicable patterns map wise and always in straight lines. So they are just pure fodder for a person with even blow average mechanical skills who is either throwing/smurfing low ranks or down there due to other gaming issue. Like decent mechanics, poor everything else.
you don’t have to bother to cheat to win at bronze, just run forward holding down fire with junkrat.
Overwatch is one of the least bot friendly games I have seen in a very long time, due to the nature of hero roles. Being even the best hitscan heroes can be blocked out by shields and outside of widowmaker none of them can oneshot people. I’ve played 1300+ levels worth, few 100 hours of comp and I’ve seen maybe 5-6 total that I was 100% sure.
Most people are NOT good enough at the game to spot a true aim bot. The lower one’s SR, the less likely it’s a bot. There is no where near the flood of bots in this game least of all in sub 3k as some seem to pitch.
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I saw more aimbots in bronze and in arcade than anywhere else. They think because people dont play to win / care there, that they won’t get noticed or reported.
I think they do it mainly to test the hack (if the acct will get banned,) before using it on their main.
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I don’t really know if it really has to do with low SR with the hacking and cheats. It could be quite possible that the reason for these hacks is to raise SR and sell accounts or make money in some other way using these hacks. The culture isn’t that strange in that mmos for a long time had gold farmers and some still do in order to obtain funds. In the case of these type of people, they don’t care about whether they ruin your gameplay and only care about getting those dollars. The bots themselves make money and then there is a market built around that to sell accounts. So put into perspective the possibility that someone pays a good sum of money for this bot and I’m not sure how it works but i’m going to assume it can be used for any account of overwatch as long as it’s on the same computer. Now consider the possibility of these people wanting to make numerous high level accounts to make a profit because of the amount they had to spend on the actual game accounts and the bots to level up the account. If there is any kind of demand and if the bots are selling for thousands then just based on those prices alone that suggests some type of demand for the product. Consider also that Blizzard actually went legally after some south Korean bot makers which if they had a low amount of problems with hackers, why would they even bother? I think people are way to focused on this idea that people with low SR are just whining and really aren’t analyzing the market. I think the most accurate answer to the amount of hacks likely pertains to the market internationally since we have China as well as other countries in the mix, who in the case of China, unfortunately has a previous reputation of heavy gold farming in other games to make a low sum of money so imagine what this market might look like to them. I think to find the more accurate conclusion, the market definitely has to be analyzed more so than the emotional state of the possibly tilted bronze player.
because you have a room full of legal big guns that you pay to smash stuff like bot makers. Most of all in KR you want to put forth a front that you will go after cheaters a bit more. As there is a strange social status issue in KR with games due to the culture being a bit more gamer friendly than other areas. KR also had a huge problem with the PC bangs, that Blizzard got a bit more under control.
I’m not saying their are not bots in a PC game, every PC game gets cheats just due to the nature of a PC game. Yet Overwatch is still rather un-bot friendly due to shields, healing and the lack of hitscan one shot heroes outside of widowmaker.
and it’s very difficult to think low SR ranges are bot infested to the level some claim as they play the game with poor team comps (no shields), stand 100% still and run in mostly straight lines.
Then you have the issue of motive to bot in a low or even bottom level of SR. As in very low to zero motive to kick in the face of the lowest levels of players, with a bot. Then on top of that we have the issue how does a player cheat, win, but stay low level?
Like one can’t have it both ways. We can’t have the lowest levels filled with people cheating to get out, but then no one gets out while cheating, so the low levels stay full of cheaters. That just runs counter to the entire point of cheating.
Keep in mind the crys of “bot!!” have been throw around at better mechanical player by not so great player since the dawn of FPS gaming. I have a screen shot folder some where going back to UT2k4 filled with people calling me a bot for example.
From a business perspective, I would think there would be a lot cheaper means to create the perception that they are going after cheaters. But let’s humor that idea that they spent that type of money for appearances for a second. If there wasn’t a problem with cheaters, why would it be necessary to sway the public?
This here doesn’t make sense. The bot is what does the one shots and is designed to do such that a lack of hitscan are bypassed in order to achieve this. Shields and healing still fortunately seem to counter these bots, the argument that the in game lack of hitscan somehow counters the bot falls short. And shields and healing have not thwarted bot production despite that you are arguing they are un-bot friendly.
It’s really in this case not just the nature of the “pc game” but the nature of the “market” in the case of microeconomics so when analyzing the amount of cheats, there are some market factors that need to be looked at such as the high demand of e-sports. Years back this really wasn’t a thing and with the age of LoL, things have changed enough to effect how cheating might possibly increase along with the demand for bots in the e-sport market. There are probably other factors that economists might identify that I’m missing but to me the biggest one that stands out, is the results of esport demand.
This is something that doesn’t make sense to me either, i n the case of making money. I’m considering that these players might be those who, even though they have a bot, find that they cannot rise as quickly because of the challengers’ player skill at the higher levels is just that good. For instance, I watched a youtube video of surefour and XQC where hackers bypassed the matchmaking using hacks, and despite the genji bot, the team with surefour and XQC were able to coordinate their strategy enough to win the game. Also, i think another issue they face is juggling the system of trying to rise in ranks while playing to a style to look less like they are hacking so they are less likely to get caught, hence “cheat, win, (lose) stay low level” until they rise. To me it wouldn’t be worth it, but I’m not making money nor is my motivation playing overwatch to make money as I’m not so to speak a gold farmer.
I will say that your point isn’t falling on deaf ears in that I could see people being jumpy about whether they are playing against cheaters. And it is possible people are seeing ghosts so to speak and “overestimating” that people are cheating. It’s also possible that ignoring the signals of the market could cause “underestimating” of hacks within a game. This brings up my original point, that people are hyperfocusing on how tilted a player is and not analyzing the market to determine the amount of hacks being used in games and their frequency of usage.
Yes and no… I mean technically a bot can trigger on anything but without heavy hit scan weapons with directly and fast impact on anyone/everyone the bot stops impacting the game all that much.
A cheater can go full bot mod where every shot is clearly a bot tracking and have a bit more impact but then it’s real clear they are cheating. I’ve even beat a team with a bot before at meh 3k range just from running Winston and Rein and sticking together blocking decent sight lines.
the harsh truth on this issues is unless a player is at least 3k+ odds are they just are not good enough at FPS games to really know the difference between a bot and a better player smurf/trolling in a low SR range. Unless the bot is just full super bot mode. Every shot, all the time, asking to get banned. All the so called sneaky bot here or there play you see claimed? Odds are it wasn’t a bot.
Being as I said, the low SR player tends to play in ways that makes them a sitting duck for decent players to snipe etc.
I was once in a QP game playing Zen on Anubis defense, point B. I’m nearly AFK on the point trying to load up a movie on my media PC with my 2nd mouse. Mean while the gold Ana on the team is ranting about widow this, widow that and she is a huge problem. Errrrr no, you standing in the open is the problem. I’m nearly AFK’ing on the same CP and not getting shot, being I have decent positional play. Where as the Ana had already been sniped 3+ times.
This is by far the least bot friendly game I have seen in years. I’m stumbled over maybe 4-5 bots in 1500+ levels of play.
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A lot of what you are saying is based on your experiences which can be a good thing but is also very limited. While I am considering your experiences in game with bots, I think it also must be considered that you might have been dealing with one type of bot and that there are different versions of programs that enable different things. It could be possible that the bots are consistently modded to create hit scan on heroes who don’t have hit scan. As long as they don’t act like 76’s q, and start annihilating one hero after another, it might be harder to detect. I’ve did a little research and found some sites advertising for such bots but i’m not going to list those sites here. So while you might have detected one type of program, you very well could have been less successful in detecting other types of programs.
My experience is limited with other fps shooters as I normally used to play mmos, so I’ll just give you the benefit of the doubt that this is the “least bot friendly game”. Even so, in my previous post i mentioned the possible results of the esport demand being an increase in cheating and hacks and in a country like south korea from what I have heard it’s a high demand and appears to continuously be growing in the US as well as other countries. So despite this game being less bot friendly, it might not be a big enough deterrent to ambitious money makers trying to exploit the esport market.
I previously underlined that your experience is a possibility and your underlining that with your description of experiences, but your experience is limited. Maybe we shouldn’t just devalue the idea of increased hacking in “any” SR level just because you had some instances of experience where people were just standing getting shot. The point I have been making is that I am leaning towards there being an increase in hacks because the market might be evolving in that direction with the increase in esports demand internationally.